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155th Grosser Preis von Baden Preview
The Grosser Preis von Baden was established in 1858, when it was contested over a much longer trip than it is today. It was originally run over a distance of close to two miles (3,200m) when first created; that distance has gradually decreased over the years, and today it is run over one and a half miles (2,400m).
The race is a Group 1 event that takes place at the Baden-Baden racecourse in Germany, held in September of each year. The race is very highly thought of and is considered an important race for runners heading to the Prix de L´Arc de Triomphe.
It has been popular for British raiders too; Ian Balding won it three times, and the likes of John Gosden, Sir Michael Stoute, Michael Jarvis (x2), Clive Brittain (x2), and Charley Appleby (x2) have all tasted success here.
For sponsorship purposes, the 2025 renewal of the Grosser Preis von Baden will hold the title of 'WETTSTAR.de - 155th Grosser Preis von Baden'.
Grosser Preis von Baden Information:
- Grosser Preis von Baden Past Winners
- Grosser Preis von Baden Trainer Statistics
- Grosser Preis von Baden Jockey Statistics
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How competitive is the Grosser Preis von Baden market? When looking at the over-rounds for the last 10 renewals, the most competitive market was in 2019 when the race had an over-round of 119%. The race in 2017 was a race that was most in the bookie's favour with an over-round of 131%, whilst on average over the last 10 renewals of the Grosser Preis von Baden, the over-round has been 124%, which means the bookie expects to pay out £100 for every £124 which is bet.
Below you will find the 2025 Grosser Preis von Baden Trends. See which patterns have occurred over the recent renewals that you may be able to use for the next renewal. We also have a section that looks at the Grosser Preis von Baden Trend Analysis. With the field now finalised, we have the Grosser Preis von Baden Trend Shortlist, which is created using the listed trends.
These are the top three quickest-run Grosser Preis von Baden races over the last 10 renewals:
- Fantastic Moon (2:28.03) in 2024
- Torquator Tasso (2:29.21) in 2021
- Ghaiyyath (2:30.08) in 2019
Looking at the future form, is the winner worth following next time out? Over the past 10 renewals, if you had followed the winner of the Grosser Preis von Baden next time out, then you would have backed a total of 3 winners. Backing all 9 runners who have been out since their win at SP next time out would have returned an LSP of +80.40. Why not head over to the racing predictions for tips on other races today?
The runner that holds the record over the past 10 renewals for the slowest time in the race was set in the 2023 renewal when Zagrey from Y Barberot under the guidance of Christophe Soumillon, won in a time of 2:39.77, whilst at the other end of the spectrum, Fantastic Moon, trained by Frau S Steinberg and ridden by Rene Piechulek set the quickest time of 2:28.03 in the 2024 renewal.
Grosser Preis von Baden Past Winners
Here are the Grosser Preis von Baden past winners for the last 10 renewals. Each row details the year of the race, the horse which won, along with the age & weight of the horse. Also detailed is the stall where the horse came from and the total number of runners in the race. The horse's trainer and the jockey at the time of winning the Grosser Preis von Baden are also displayed, along with the starting price at which the horse was sent off.
| Year | Horse (Drawn) | Info |
|---|---|---|
| 2024 2:28.03 | Fantastic Moon (GER) 4yo 9-6 (5 of 6) 21/10 | Rene Piechulek Frau S Steinberg (GER) |
| 2023 2:39.77 | Zagrey (FR) 4yo 9-6 (4 of 6) 2/5F | Christophe Soumillon Y Barberot (FR) |
| 2022 2:38.71 | Mendocino (GER) 4yo 9-6 (1 of 4) 69/10 | Rene Piechulek Frau S Steinberg (GER) |
| 2021 2:29.21 | Torquator Tasso (GER) 4yo 9-6 (8 of 7) 9/5F | Rene Piechulek Marcel Weiss (GER) |
| 2020 2:39.52 | Barney Roy (GB) 6yo 9-6 (5 of 8) 4/1 | James Doyle Charlie Appleby (GB) |
| 2019 2:30.08 | Ghaiyyath (IRE) 4yo 9-6 (7 of 9) 23/10 | William Buick Charlie Appleby (GB) |
| 2018 2:37.38 | Best Solution (IRE) 4yo 9-6 (1 of 7) 29/10 | Pat Cosgrave Saeed bin Suroor (GB) |
| 2017 2:32.55 | Guignol (GER) 5yo 9-6 (6 of 6) 19/5 | Filip Minarik Jean-Pierre Carvalho (GER) |
| 2016 2:33.79 | Iquitos (GER) 4yo 9-6 (10 of 10) 69/10 | Ian Ferguson H-J Groschel (GER) |
| 2015 2:31.48 | Prince Gibraltar (FR) 4yo 9-6 (4 of 7) 6/4F | Fabrice Veron J-C Rouget (FR) |
Where have the winning runners come from?
Here are the countries where the winning trainers of the Grosser Preis von Baden have been based:
- GER: 5 winners with an additional 9 placings from 54 runners
- GB: 3 winners with an additional 3 placings from 11 runners
- FR: 2 winners with an additional 0 placings from 4 runners
- CZE: 0 winners with an additional 0 placings from 1 runner
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Grosser Preis von Baden Trainer Statistics
The leading trainer in the Grosser Preis von Baden over the last 10 renewals is Charlie Appleby, who has won the race two times, with those two winners coming from Ghaiyyath (2019) and Barney Roy (2020).
Here are the Grosser Preis von Baden trainer statistics over the last 10 renewals for trainers who have entries in the 2025 renewal; those not listed have not had a runner. (R = Runners, W = Winners, P = Places including winners, Win LSP is based on 1pt Win and EW LSP is based on 0.5pt Win & 0.5pt Place):
| Trainer | R-W-P | Win | EW |
|---|---|---|---|
| Charlie Appleby | 2-2-2 | +6.30 | +3.78 |
| Marcel Weiss | 4-1-2 | -1.20 | -0.16 |
| Henk Grewe | 7-0-3 | -7.00 | -2.73 |
| P Schiergen | 5-0-2 | -5.00 | -2.22 |
| William Haggas | 1-0-1 | -1.00 | -0.38 |
Grosser Preis von Baden Jockey Statistics
The leading jockey in the Grosser Preis von Baden over the last 10 renewals is Rene Piechulek, who has won the race three times, with those three winners coming from Torquator Tasso (2021), Mendocino (2022) and Fantastic Moon (2024).
Here are the Grosser Preis von Baden jockey statistics over the last 10 renewals for jockeys who have rides in the 2025 renewal; those not listed have not had a runner. (R = Runners, W = Winners, P = Places including winners, Win LSP is based on 1pt Win and EW LSP is based on 0.5pt Win & 0.5pt Place):
| Jockey | R-W-P | Win | EW |
|---|---|---|---|
| Rene Piechulek (Alleno) | 4-3-3 | +9.80 | +1.44 |
| William Buick (Rebels Romance) | 1-1-1 | +2.30 | +1.38 |
| Andrasch Starke (Path Of Soldier) | 6-0-4 | -6.00 | -2.76 |
| Adrie de Vries (Cold Heart) | 5-0-0 | -5.00 | -4.00 |
| Tom Marquand (Dubai Honour) | 1-0-1 | -1.00 | -0.38 |
| Thore Hammer Hansen (Straight) | 1-0-0 | -1.00 | -1.00 |
| Clement Lecoeuvre (Goliath) | 1-0-0 | -1.00 | -1.00 |
2025 Grosser Preis von Baden Trends
Favourites finishing positions (oldest to latest): 1, 5, 2, 2, 3, 3, 1, 2, 1, 2
The percentage shown is the percentage of the total number of runners who fell under that factor. High percentages are less appealing than lower ones, as you would expect them to do well. The trend information is based on the available information on the Racing Post in terms of previous runs, etc.
- 10 / 10 (47%) - Achieved an RPR of 114+ (Career)
- 10 / 10 (70%) - Highest Won is not G3/Cl3/Cl6
- 10 / 10 (71%) - Ran in 5 - 18 races (Non-Hcps)
- 10 / 10 (74%) - Ran in 5 - 20 races (Career)
- 10 / 10 (76%) - Ran in 2 - 12 races (Jockey)
- 10 / 10 (76%) - In a field of 5 - 12 (LTO)
- 10 / 10 (79%) - Sex is not Filly/Mare
- 10 / 10 (79%) - Furthest ran 1m2½f - 1m4f
- 10 / 10 (79%) - Carried 126 - 132lbs (LTO)
- 10 / 10 (79%) - Not in ENG/ITA/SVK/UAE (Last Win)
- 10 / 10 (84%) - Beaten no more -8½l (LTO)
- 10 / 10 (86%) - Not in a G3/LST (LTO)
- 10 / 10 (86%) - No bigger than 16/1 (LTO)
- 10 / 10 (86%) - Not on HY/STD-SLW/STD (Debut)
- 10 / 10 (87%) - Not on HY/GF (Last Win)
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Grosser Preis von Baden Trend Shortlist
Baden Baden will host the 2025 renewal of the Grosser Preis von Baden, which will be run at 2:25 pm on Sunday, 7th September 2025, and these are the runners who perform best based on the trends, along with the trainer and jockey and their record in the race (Runs-Wins-Places Win LSP / EW LSP):
- 15/15 Alleno (SP)
- Marcel Weiss (4-1-2 -1.20 / -0.16)
- Rene Piechulek (4-3-3 +9.80 / +1.44)
Others: Cold Heart (14/15), Hochkonig (13/15), Dubai Honour (12/15), Goliath (12/15), Rebels Romance (10/15), Straight (10/15) and Path Of Soldier (9/15).
*Trainer & Jockey numbers are Runs-Wins-Places Win LSP / EW LSP, Runners, Odds and Trends Passed/Failed correct at the time of posting (12:15 pm Thursday 4th September 2025), if no odds were available at the time of posting, then forecasted odds are used.
Rebels Romance won the Grosser Preis von Berlin last time out, and a total of 4 previous winners of that race from a total of 9 runners went on to win next time out, backing them all would have returned an LSP of +5.70.
Hochkonig won the Deutsches Derby last time out, and a total of 1 previous winner of that race from a total of 8 runners went on to win next time out, backing them all would have returned an LSP of -3.80.
Grosser Preis von Baden Trend Analysis
✅ The trend factor, which has produced 5+ winners and shows the best LSP, an LSP of +10.50, is when runners had 4 career starts on the going.
❌ The worst performing factor that has failed to produce a single winner is when runners were aged 3, when backing these, the trend shows a record of 0-28.
Here are the most recent winning draws, along with the further placings in brackets:
- 2024: Winner in 5 (1) [6 Runners]
- 2023: Winner in 4 (7) [6 Runners]
- 2022: Winner in 1 [4 Runners]
- 2021: Winner in 8 (1) [7 Runners]
- 2020: Winner in 5 (7,6) [8 Runners]
The courses that have produced the most winners of the Grosser Preis von Baden are Munich and Hoppegarten; there have been a total of 2 winners from each of those courses.
The race is open to both sexes, with the Male runners having produced a total of 10 winners from a total of 55 runners, whilst the Female runners have produced 0 winners from a total of 15 runners.
Looking over the past renewals, there is only one stallion whose offspring have produced multiple winners of the Grosser Preis von Baden; that stallion, Adlerflug, has produced 3 winners (2022,2021,2016).
Looking at the winning odds over the last 10 renewals, the biggest-priced winner was Mendocino in 2022, winning for Frau S Steinberg at odds of 69/10 under the guidance of Rene Piechulek. Looking at the runners at the head of the market over the last 10 renewals, there have been 3 winning favourites in the race. All figures and trends above, such as the horse's previous runs, are based on the information that is available on the Racing Post.
Route to the Grosser Preis von Baden
Many trainers will target races to use as prep races before coming to the Grosser Preis von Baden. These are the races which the recent winners ran in before coming here:
| Info | Last Race |
|---|---|
| 2024 - Fantastic Moon Munich - 2nd of 9 (7/5) | Grosser Dallmayr-Preis - Bayerisches Zuchtrennen |
| 2023 - Zagrey Saint-Cloud - 2nd of 5 (16/5) | Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud |
| 2022 - Mendocino Chantilly - 5th of 9 (16/1) | Grand Prix de Chantilly |
| 2021 - Torquator Tasso Hoppegarten - 2nd of 8 (9/5) | Grosser Preis von Berlin |
| 2020 - Barney Roy Cologne - 4th of 7 (2/1) | 58th Preis von Europa |
| 2019 - Ghaiyyath Longchamp - 3rd of 5 (1/2) | Prix Ganay |
| 2018 - Best Solution Hoppegarten - 1st of 7 (12/5) | Grosser Preis von Berlin |
| 2017 - Guignol Hamburg - 4th of 5 (2/1) | pferdewetten.de - Grosser Hansa-Preis |
| 2016 - Iquitos Munich - 4th of 12 (6/1) | Grosser Dallmayr-Preis - Bayerisches Zuchtrennen |
| 2015 - Prince Gibraltar York - 3rd of 8 (5/2) | York Stakes |
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