More returns for your money!!

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Last month i wrote a blog about whether the sp was better thanbacking on the tote at Royal Ascot, if any of you read that blogyou would have noticed that backing on the tote made you more moneyon average in

More returns for your money!!
Darren Brett Tipster Competition Manager

Horse Racing, greyhounds and snooker specialist with thirty years experience of writing about sport across multiple platforms. A QPR and Snooker fan

Tote Betting

Over the years I have looked at the tote returns at the bigger meetings of Royal Ascot, Cheltenham, and Glorious Goodwood and checked whether the SP or Tote return gave us the most money on outsiders.  

More returns for your money!!

Many new to betting may ask what is the tote? 

If you are unsure check out either the betting terminology article or types of bets blog, both explain how the tote works and what bets are available from the tote. 

In essence, the Tote offers pool betting but single betting is also available and this is where I have focused on this blog.

The following figures are for all horses that returned an SP of 10/1 or greater and then compared that SP to the tote return. 

You can see that in many cases the tote paid substantially more than the SP.

The latest results from the last two Royal Ascot meetings tend to hold up the theory that you should consider tote betting on outsiders, especially in the big field handicaps. 

Date Time Horse SP Tote
16th June 2020 1.15 Motakhayel 14/1 £18.3
16th June 2020 3.00 Pyledriver 18/1 £20.9
16th June 2020 4.40 Coeur De Lion 16/1 £24.25
17th June 2020 1.15 Sir Busker 12/1 £13.5
17th June 2020 2.25 Hukum 12/1 £11.85
18th June 2020 1.15 Highland Chief 20/1 £25.05
18th June 2020 4.40 Onassis 33/1 £26.9
19h June 2020 4.40 Scarlet Dragon 33/1 £51.40
20th June 2020 12.40 Chief Of Chiefs 20/1 £16.45
20th June 2020 1.50 Nando Parado 150/1 £117.1
20th June 2020 4.10 Hey Jonesey 18/1 £18.7



Date Time Horse SP Tote
18th June 2019 2.30 Lord Glitters 14/1 £11.7
18th June 2019 4.20 Circus Maximus 10/1 £12.05
18th June 2019 5.00 Grand Visr 12/1 £14.00
19th June 2019 2.30 Raffle Prize 18/1 £16.90
19th June 2019 5.00 Afaak 20/1 £31.60
20th June 2019 5.00 Biometric 28/1 £56.45
20th June 2019 5.35 South Pacific 22/1 £42.80
21st June 2019 4.20 Watch Me 20/1 £33.35
21st June 2019 5.00 Thanks Be 33/1 £45.95
22nd June 2019 3.05 Space Traveller 25/1 £48.35

Royal Ascot 2010 - 2012

In between 2010 & 2012 there were 25 horses that won races with an sp return of 10/1 or higher

2010 results

There were 6 horses that won with an sp of 10/1 or higher, the table below shows whether sp or Tote was the better return

SP TOTE BEST RETURN
28/1 £35.80 Tote
16/1 £27.90 Tote
20/1 £23.80 Tote
14/1 £15.60 Tote
16/1 £23.60 Tote
10/1 £13.90 Tote

2011 results

There were 9 horses that won with an sp of 10/1 or higher, the table below shows whether sp or Tote was the better return

SP TOTE BEST RETURN
11/1 £11.80 SP
12/1 £14.70 Tote
12/1 £11.20 SP
20/1 £28.60 Tote
16/1 £16.70 SP
12/1 £13.50 Tote
12/1 £15.30 Tote
25/1 £36.80 Tote
12/1 £18.70 Tote

2012 results

There were 10 horses that won with an sp of 10/1 or higher, the table below shows whether sp or Tote was the better return

SP TOTE BEST RETURN
12/1 £16.20 Tote
14/1 £19.00 Tote
20/1 £25.40 Tote
11/1 £13.20 Tote
16/1 £18.40 Tote
20/1 £27.00 Tote
12/1 £15.30 Tote
12/1 £13.90 Tote
14/1 £17.90 Tote
33/1 £66.50 Tote

Cheltenham Festival 2011 - 2013

In between 2011 & 2013 there were 34 horses that won races with an sp return of 10/1 or higher

2011 results

There were 11 horses that won with an sp of 10/1 or higher, the table below shows whether sp or Tote was the better return

SP TOTE BEST RETURN
10/1 £10.10 SP
10/1 £11.30 Tote
16/1 £22.20 Tote
10/1 £10.60 SP
16/1 £17.80 Tote
14/1 £16.90 Tote
20/1 £23.50 Tote
25/1 £41.00 Tote
10/1 £12.80 Tote
33/1 £68.00 Tote
40/1 £69.40 Tote

2012 results

There were 11 horses that won with an sp of 10/1 or higher, the table below shows whether sp or Tote was the better return

SP TOTE BEST RETURN
10/1 £11.00 Same Return
14/1 £19.10 Tote
11/1 £11.40 SP
16/1 £21.80 Tote
40/1 £55.40 Tote
16/1 £14.20 SP
14/1 £19.80 Tote
33/1 £43.70 Tote
20/1 £26.30 Tote
20/1 £31.10 Tote
20/1 £24.60 Tote

2013 results

There were 12 horses that won with an sp of 10/1 or higher, the table below shows whether sp or Tote was the better return

SP TOTE BEST RETURN
28/1 £35.90 Tote
16/1 £19.40 Tote
33/1 £42.20 Tote
25/1 £34.50 Tote
25/1 £23.20 SP
20/1 £30.20 Tote
25/1 £27.00 Tote
50/1 £77.30 Tote
16/1 £18.90 Tote
14/1 £15.80 Tote
10/1 £11.40 Tote
16/1 £15.90 SP

Glorious Goodwood 2010 - 2012

In between 2010 & 2012 there were 33 horses that won races with an sp of 10/1 or higher

2010 results

There were 9 horses that won with an sp of 10/1 or higher, the table below shows whether sp or Tote was the better return

SP TOTE BEST RETURN
12/1 £12.20 SP
10/1 £12.00 Tote
10/1 £10.40 SP
16/1 £18.40 Tote
14/1 £21.30 Tote
28/1 £44.50 Tote
16/1 £21.60 Tote
16/1 £21.20 Tote
20/1 £24.70 Tote

2011 results

There were 11 horses that won with an sp of 10/1 or higher, the table below shows whether sp or Tote was the better return

SP TOTE BEST RETURN
20/1 £30.00 Tote
16/1 £23.10 Tote
14/1 £17.00 Tote
20/1 £26.60 Tote
14/1 £17.10 Tote
16/1 £13.70 Tote
22/1 £29.20 Tote
18/1 £29.00 Tote
12/1 £16.60 Tote
10/1 £12.30 Tote
10/1 £14.60 Tote

2012 results

There were 13 horses that won with an sp of 10/1 or higher, the table below shows whether sp or Tote was the better return

SP TOTE BEST RETURN
12/1 £16.80 Tote
14/1 £18.50 Tote
16/1 £21.60 Tote
22/1 £30.70 Tote
14/1 £17.30 Tote
14/1 £16.10 Tote
16/1 £22.10 Tote
12/1 £15.20 Tote
25/1 £31.40 Tote
20/1 £28.40 Tote
10/1 £12.30 Tote
22/1 £36.40 Tote
16/1 £12.70 SP

As you can see by the above results, you receive far more for your money backing horses at 10/1+ on the tote rather than backing them at SP

In total of the 3 years, we have looked at there have been a total of 92 races where the winner was 10/1 or higher, of those 92 races 1 race returned the same winnings.

The SP was best in 13 races and the Tote was best in the remaining 78 races.

If you decide to back any horse at 10/1 or higher then it's more likely you will receive more for your money by backing them on the Tote. 

You will be able to check all tips and prices for those prestigious meetings in the horse racing tips competition



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