Dutching



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What is Dutching?

Dutching is the process of backing more than one selection in the same event to win the same amount whichever of those selections wins. It is not to be confused to arbing which involves backing all of the outcomes in an event to guarantee a profit, which is only possible using multiple bookmakers on a very select few events.

Dutching is ideal for events with many outcomes where you think you have narrowed the possibilities down to usually two or three likely outcomes, although in theory you can Dutch any number of selections. The fewer selections you choose to Dutch, the less losers you will back and the more profit you should make. By Dutching fewer selections though you are increasing your risk.

One of the best uses of Dutching is if you either have information or a very strong feeling that certain outcomes are extremely unlikely. If those unlikely outcomes are huge odds then Dutching isn’t going to be worthwhile but if you feel strongly that some well fancied outcomes are unlikely then Dutching the remaining likely selections can really pay dividends.

How To Work Out The Different Stakes

The key feature of Dutching is that you win the same amount but with all the different odds involved it can sometimes be difficult to work out the stakes required.

Example

If you are backing two selections, one at 5/1 and one at 8/1, and wish to win £100 whichever one wins:

Split the odds into decimals (6.0 and 9.0) and divide the stake by the decimal odds.

£100 / 6.0 = £16.66

£100 / 9.0 = £11.11

Total stake = £27.77

Alternatively you may have an idea of how much you want to bet on the event, in this case it may be about £30. You know roughly that your stake on the 6.0 chance should be around £20. To calculate how much to stake on the other selection:

£20 x (6.0/9.0) = Stake on the bigger priced selection = £13.33

The total stake would be £33.33 and if either selection wins you’d return £120



Decimal Price Stake
Selection 1 (required)
Selection 2 (required)
Selection 3
Selection 4
Selection 5
Total Staked
Return if any selection wins
Profit

Automatic recalculation

Calculating Combined Odds

When Dutching it is important to remember that the selections you are backing come with combined odds. In order to select the best bets you still need to consider the odds and choose events where your combined selections have the best chance of winning relative to their odds rather than simply backing all of the selections you think might win.

Example

If you are staking a total of £100 and the return for a winning bet is £150 then you are backing all of your selections at combined odds of 1/2 or 1.5 in decimal terms.

When placing your Dutch bet you will have already worked out your stakes and total returns in order to place the bet with the same return for each outcome. Then to get the decimal odds of your bet simply divide the returns by your total stake.

It might seem difficult to guess the combined odds if the numbers are a bit more random such as £279 winnings for an £82 stake but it’s very easy to work out:

£279 / £82 = Odds of 3.4, which is just shy of 5/2



Advantages of Dutching

Offers New Opportunities

One of the big advantages of Dutching is it creates new opportunities to make a profit. In the past you may have narrowed a big race down to two horses but found it too hard to pick between them and therefore left the race along. Alternatively you may have predicted a football match would be very low scoring but not been sure whether to back 0-0 or 1-0. With Dutching you can make these situations pay.

Can Still Get Value

Just because you are backing more one selection it doesn’t mean you aren’t getting value. If you think that a short priced favourite is unlikely to oblige then two or more bigger priced selections in that event might offer great value. As long the returns from the combined bets are larger than the chance of one of those outcomes winning then you are getting value through Dutching.

More Winning Bets

By Dutching you are decreasing your total odds but increasing your chances of winning. In theory this should result in more winning bets and therefore more frequent betting returns. This will help guard your betting bank against lean periods and should also give you a bit more enjoyment out of your betting.

Disadvantages of Dutching

Dilution Of Profit

The more selections you bet on when Dutching the more you are going to decrease your total odds in each betting event. Therefore each time you decide to include any more selections you need to consider the fact that your strike rate will need to improve also to maintain a certain profit level. If you are Dutching and not winning very often you are going to burn through your betting bank very quickly.

Reverse Dutching

Reverse Dutching sounds complicated but it is quite simply Dutching lay bets on the exchanges. All of the same principles apply, the more selections you lay the more likely your bet is to succeed but the less you will win. Meanwhile the fewer selections that you lay, the less likely you are to win but profitability should increase per bet.

Dutching In Practice

OLBG member Micko70 is a fan of Dutching when it comes to correct score betting and he has written an OLBG blog to show punters how he goes about selecting his bets and he can make it pay. You can read Micko70's blog on Dutching by clicking here.

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Comments from the Forum

  • monkeytennis

    <r>Dutching makes picking winners more likely but does it increase or decrease the value you are getting if you know that at least one of your bets is going to be a loser? How have your experiences with Dutching gone?<br/>
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    Think this Betting School lesson needs anything else added to it? Disagree with anything written above? Let us know your thoughts and your insight could be included in the OLBG Betting School!</r>
  • tomdouglas

    <t>There are a number of events during the cycling season which lend themselves to viable dutching opportunities. In particular, events expected to finish in an uphill sprint can narrow down potential winners quite considerably, and then it\'s really just a case of whether the layers are offering any value, and it does happen at times.</t>
  • Zipster

    <r>I always find myself questioning myself when it comes to dutching, I quite often become stuck between two runners in races and probably 50% of the time I will end leaving the race alone as dutching is not an option in that the odds are too short to make a profit.<br/>
    <br/>
    I then have the other nightmare of having say two selections at 9/2 & 16/1 which in terms of dutching would mean the following if say a 10 stake for the race...<br/>
    <br/>
    <B><s></s></B><LIST type="decimal"><s></s><LI><B>7.56 on the 9/2<br/>
    2.44 on the 16/1</B></LI><e></e></LIST><i></i><br/>
    <br/>
    now if either of them wins then a return of 41.56 so a profit of 31.56 however if the 16/1 runner wins then I always have the feeling that I am losing out on winnings because if I had simple split my bet with 5 on each then the returns would have been 85 and a profit of 75 so the main question for me is whether or not I willing to take the chance!<br/>
    <br/>
    <B><s></s></B><LIST type="decimal"><s></s><LI><B>Dutch with a guaranteed profit of 31.56 if either wins<br/>
    Split the stake equally with the chance of making a profit of either 17.50 or 75</B></LI><e></e></LIST><i></i><br/>
    <br/>
    I guess it all about greed in the end, would I be happy with a profit of 17.50? Of course I would! Any profit is a win no matter how small or big! I personally like to use Dutching when the difference in the price is less than 5 points, so a 9/2 & 6/1 then I would dutch, if I had like in the example a 9/2 & 16/1 then I tend to split the bet equally.<br/>
    <br/>
    I think most people will have their own ways of going about things but that is just how I tend to look at things.</r>
  • johnyyydal24

    <t>Would it be possible to dutch say a football game home and away say 2 and 4.4 with a 10 pound bet which gives you a 3.75 profit for any side to win.<br/>
    then dutch the 0-0 and 1-1 draw which is priced at about 11 and 7 with a 3.75 dutch bet which gives you a 16.04 total for any team to draw with a 1-1 or 0-0 so both bets would cost you 13.75 which gives you a free draw bet with a profit of 2.29 total cost of bet . you might think that its not much but betting with 10 times your stake money would cost 137.50 for a profit of 22.90. but with a 2-2 draw or over you can lose.</t>
  • Betfairalfie

    <t>Yes John, your sums are correct.<br/>
    <br/>
    Alternatively you could lay 2-2 3-3 and Any Other Draw on betfair.<br/>
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    I can't answer the questions about the accuracy of the prices you give nor its longterm profitability. But I do recommend dutching. Every one should learn to use a idutching calculator.</t>
  • nors

    <t>I dutch bets a lot, especially when finding weak favourites. So my first port of call would be trawling through the cards for vulnerable favs. I am happy making a profit on the event rather than a specific selection.</t>
  • tomdouglas

    <t>I don't tend to use calculations, as such, but I do recommend investing on more than one selection, when the odds are viable. Although it may seem like just having a "saver" bet, because of the markets I dabble in, the saver's odds can be huge, and therefore the returns to a small stake can be high.<br/>
    In cycling markets, where there are likely to be over 160 runners, and generally around 20% of the field might have a realistic chance of being involved in the finish, there are opportunities to "cast a net" of small bets among the bigger odds on offer. <br/>
    I've never thought of applying this theory to horse racing, it clearly isn't relevant in match betting, but perhaps it could work. I don't really follow horse racing these days, just a casual fan and observer, but the saver bet was always valid, and I'm sure that doing the calculations might work.</t>
  • johnyyydal24

    <t>Looking at the flash scores there were there were 24 Games out of 30 scoring less than 4 Goals. so<br/>
    by Dutching the Under 0.5 Goals with the under 3.5 goals for a small profit. for instance<br/>
    Fleetwood v Leeds 0.5 goals at 11 with the under 3.5 goals at 1.31 so for a 10 stake the profit would be 1.71. But different games could give you more or less.<br/>
    There was a game played earlier and it was 20 minutes into the game and you were getting the same sort of price. following it long term could be a winner.</t>
  • johnyyydal24

    <t>There is a Game to-night Germany v fiji Under 0.5 goals 250 and under 5.5 goals was 4 could be good game.</t>
  • johnyyydal24

    <t>Sorry for my last two posts I was not thinking as you know you dont need to dutch these bets so can you please delete these thanks.</t>
  • nors

    <t>This seems to be a growth area, are members regularly dutching results and scores?</t>

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