Is the writing on the wall for OLBG....???

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Is the writing on the wall for OLBG....???

Postby horage » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:01 pm

With the news that SKYBET are ending their affiliates programme and the ending of free bets from SKYBET for OLBG compos

does this signal the beginning of the end for OLBG.

Can OLBG survive without the revenue from bookmakers affiliates scheme ?

Does the OLBG finance model allow for it to survive just on advertising revenues alone ...?

It is such a brilliant site it would be a great shame if it were to go under ; but with the bookmaking industry facing greater government

control the affiliates scheme looks ripe for reform by parliament and skybets action may be the tip of a looming iceberg....

What steps do members need to take to ensure the long term survival of OLBG....???

Remember you don't know what you've got till its gone. :?

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Re: Is the writing on the wall for OLBG....???

Postby Micko70 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 9:27 pm

No, Skybet are the first firm for quite a while to pull out, there are 26 bookies links you can join through and although Skybet are no longer offering free bets, they will still attract members to join them, of those 26 bookies on OLBG, only 4 offer free bets through the competitions, so there are plenty of options still open to OLBG.

Over £94,000 has been paid out in cash prizes in the last 12 months, if the writing was on the wall then i would expect to see a massive drop in cash prizes given away each month

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Postby worthy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:36 pm

Micko you seem to forget BetVictor pulled out not long ago and in the last 6 months Ladbrokes have twice been delayed ( next to cancel I would think)

Olbg is a very popular site, but a ceiling is only so high and in todays climate it is easy to see some changes needed to be made.

Yes there is 26 bookmakers with links , but who can you trust to pay you without any problems apart from the big 4.

Everyone at OLBG do an exceptional job and have the patience to deal with the crap thrown at them which is unwarranted.

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Postby Micko70 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 3:28 pm

Apologies worthy, i forgot about BetVictor.

At the end of the day, bookies dont have to offer free bets for our members, and like everything, things have to end at some point

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Postby The Shark » Wed Sep 06, 2017 3:57 pm

Reducing the free bets they give out is one way to cut some costs and admin and unfortunately we may see some more go this way.

If you want to help OLBG then when you open a new betting account please do so via a link on our free bets or bookmaker review pages. We can then receive payment from the bookies - whether that is fixed fees or revenue sharing. It is a similar model to other affiliate businesses - say insurance or travel comparison sites.

Alternatively, if you don't want to help OLBG, then when you open a betting account go direct to the bookmaker - then they don't pay us anything.

You get the same odds, offers either way. One way you help OLBG, the other way the bookie pays us nothing. Your call on that, but for sure we appreciate members who open their accounts via links on OLBG, it is what has helped us to give over £650,000 back to our members in cash prizes and run what we hope is a pretty useful site and service for many punters. Also through this support we have been able to do some fun things for members such as the Mares Road to Cheltenham Sponsorship program which has also allowed us to give huge sums of money back to racing and helped a key area of racing as well as to give some of you some memorable days out.

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Postby The Shark » Wed Sep 06, 2017 4:10 pm

Other things you could do to help which would be greatly appreciated...

If you have any friends or colleagues you think are highly knowledgeable on sports betting, encourage them to sign up to the tipster competition and add their tips.

Let people know about OLBG tips via your social networks - suggest they get the OLBG app if they like betting or if they are off on a trip to the races and need some help etc.

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Postby The Market Man » Wed Sep 06, 2017 6:11 pm

The Leger meeting coming up - a Twitter splurge would also help, maybe by adding @OLBG to the expected trending hashtags.

Horse race betting and thus OLBG will adapt. People were claiming the writing was on the wall for bookies with the advent of the exchanges but they're still standing.

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Postby tbuckley » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:20 pm

if they've not already seen this on twitter then the bosses at OLBG may well want to read & perhaps react to this :-

https://caanberry.com/affiliate-tipsters/

I don't know the full workings of OLBG from a business perspective and it's not my business to know, all I know about OLBG is that it's a truly fantastic platform for sports & sports betting fans and that it's been a massive positive for me to be involved as a member & blogger over the last 5 years.

I know that OLBG has been a massive positive for many other people as well, given them the platform to have top discussions, share ideas and make plenty of top friends, add to that the ability to receive loads of cash and free bet prizes along with FREE tickets to the OLBG sponsored race days, those racedays are sensational fun and given me some of my very best horse racing experiences.

I work in the betting industry and right now it feels like every element of the industry is under attack, with politicians deciding to target the industry as well the media, no doubt rightly in some aspects but every day it's just relentless talk of media stories about the negatives of the betting industry, never any positives, and that's no good for anybody.

The way that all this negative talk about FOBT's, affiliates etc is manifesting itself is via betting shop staff getting more moaning and abuse from customers who just lamely believe everything they see in the media without actually knowing the facts and they are using it as a way to blame somebody else apart from themselves, literally every shift now you get people blaming the shop staff for their losses, people lazily abusing betting shop staff on twitter saying it's our fault that all these people are losing big amounts on the machines or via bets.

All staff have to go through training about dealing with such issues, company policies on such issues are constantly monitored and checked, it's all taken very seriously but all you get from the media is that nobody cares, nobody does anything and that betting is evil.

Somebody tweets a video of somebody going nuts on a machine in a bookies and suddenly the whole world has an opinion and think they know everything involved and think it's fair game to insult betting shop staff and accuse them of not caring or not doing enough, when in reality staff will be doing what they can within company policy & guidelines, I can honestly tell you if they are not doing that then they will be dealt with as it's all taken very seriously.

However, as we all know today if the media say something then the sheep that lazily follow the media just believe it, facts don't seem to matter.
Loving it on OLBG, on twitter @tbuckleythinks :

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Postby Casino55 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 11:12 am

I hope not...I'm just a normal working class punter but the experiences I've had with OLBG days out are something I will never forget..I've also made a few new friends.So keep up the good work all involved at OLBG..cheers Ian

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Postby mc1000 » Sat Sep 09, 2017 2:03 pm

Due to technical issues unfortunately I am only a part time contributor to this site nowadys and having dabbled on other sites would have to throw my weight behind horage's opening point of:
Remember you don't know what you've got till its gone. :?
From my personal point of view the site would only be in trouble by the demise of it's forums as if the cash does start to dry up although there would undoubtably be a substantial exodus due to there being a large number of non contributing members who just play (understandably) for the free cash I do believe there are enough hardcore contributors to keep this site going. I only mention the last part as I have noted with some of the changes over the last few months that the forums seem a little more difficult to locate with the advent of more headings going to items such as the Daily 4-Fold etc and whilst I fully understand it is a betting site in my humble opinion it stands apart from other sites due to its blogs threads and forums.

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Postby Robmull » Sat Sep 09, 2017 4:31 pm

I agree with both horage and mc1000, that it would be a crying shame if the OLBG was to disappear, as I have enjoyed contributing to the various discussions during the 3 years that I have been a member (just over 2 as a regular blogger).

However, I am concerned that there does appear to be a marked reduction in enthusiasm for members to contribute on the Horse Racing discussion thread, as highlighted by the following examples:

Today's daily selection/discussion thread (at the time I write this note) has generated less than 500 views and just 5 posts.

The St Leger Festival thread that I set up last Saturday has received just 90 views and only 3 posts, including my initial set up note, despite the fact that it has been available for 7 days.

Perhaps things will improve now that the longer nights are drawing in and members have more time to view topics and contribute their thoughts, but it does strike me that there are just a handful of stalwarts who are making regular contributions and keeping the Horse Racing discussion thread just about ticking over.

Perhaps my memory is playing tricks, but there did seem to be more members contributing to discussions when I first joined the site and whilst I didn't always agree with what they posted, their thoughts were always interesting and on many occasions provocative.

I know that things have to change and OLBG needs to try to keep one step ahead of the competition, but there does appear to have been a huge influx of new members who are only interested in making money from the competitions and benefitting from the opinions of the in form tipsters, without feeling the need to share their views (perhaps some are scared of negative responses) on the Horse Racing discussion forum.

In my view we need more members who are prepared to share their thoughts to generate lively discussions from which we can all benefit.

Whatever happened to the ethos - LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO BEAT THE BOOKMAKERS?

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Re: Is the writing on the wall for OLBG....???

Postby mc1000 » Sun Sep 10, 2017 10:27 am

Hi Rob
When I was regular contributor I believe I came to the same conclusions and confess that initially I felt very frustrated with the lack of response I would get... until the penny dropped with me in that although writing what I thought was an interesting and thought provoking thread was actually possibly on to specific a subject or it was something that I had been working on and specialised in but may have been of little interest to anyone else. I then turned my attention to highlighting other peoples threads and trying to get involved with there ideas but heres the rub there are only a handful of people who would even consider working together have the time to do so and then you have to get them on the same wavelength (three tricky ones there..lol) ie I think your Value Calculator is a great idea and as you know I was chuffed to bits that David worked with you on that one and to have obtained a profitable end result to the test was nothing short of genius but I can only think of possibly two or three members on here who would have been knowlegable enough to have pulled that off by selecting runners two days in advance. I hope does this does not come across as to negative and hope you find another ally soon but until then I am afraid you may have to settle for doing it as you probabaly first intended for the love of the game.
However in conclusion although we have what we have a positive suggestion that I think would be a nice touch would be to have a competition set up to play blogs and threads up against each other and if my memory serves me well there was a nice one involving man o bong a while back which was done in good humour and highlighted both players systems. I had hoped to throw a challenge out along similar lines before my OLBG career came to an abrupt technical end but maybe Rob you could match your VC system up against someone else's. ? Now having prattled on long enough I will limp back over to OLBG Ire to bring a thread up to date for the Listowel festival.
All the best Rob I will log back in when I can... :D

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