EUROVISION SONG CONTEST 2015

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Postby meldettori » Sun May 24, 2015 12:38 pm

Might as well call it Sveriovision, as Sweden won it even with Azerbaijan a few years ago.
Congrats to the OLBG tireless pundits who got the winner and for the effort put into this thread.

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Postby markdowd » Sun May 24, 2015 1:54 pm

Sincere commiserations to Italy backers...those televote/jury scores must make you all feel very frustrated. Some very odd looking scores by some of the juries.

Some last minute pragmatism on Each Way bets on Belgium and a 8-1 Russia a week ago, plus a rather irrational Norway to land Top ten at 4-5 made me emerge with a modest profit and offset my earlier punts on Norway in March.

I must learn I 2016 to separate my own love for song from my betting sense, but to show I was not on my own, the news of the day for me:

"Mørland won the Marcel Bezençon Composer Award! which is the award for the best compositiom/songwriter in Eurovision Song Contest 2015."

In future, that should be worth an extra 250 votes!!

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Postby nahtanoj » Sun May 24, 2015 5:12 pm

Did you guys see how Georgia's entry was totally ruined by too much smoke and bad camera angles. She had no chance of a win but still unfortunate for Georgia because it's extremely rare for the producers to mess up a performance.

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Team table

Postby Systemsman » Sun May 24, 2015 7:36 pm

How did the Team table do?

Sweden 89 1st - well done Team!
Italy 75 3rd
Russia 69 2nd
Norway 42 8th
Estonia 34 7th
Australia 22 5th
Belgium 20 4th
Spain 15 21st
Serbia 12 10th
Georgia 4 11th
Greece 4 19th
Azerbaijan 3 12th
Iceland 3 ----
Albania 2 ----
Slovenia 2 14th
Cyprus 1 22nd
Israel 1 9th
Lithuania 1 1th

So got the all important winner and top 3 but not in correct order - not bad at all. Norway and Estonia a little too high and Australia and Belgium not quite high enough. Our top 7 contained 1,2,3,4,5,7,8 but not in the correct order but still very very good I think. Latvia 6th was missed by all.

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Postby shedrule1983 » Sun May 24, 2015 7:38 pm

I did not have much time this year so ive stayed away from this forum but well done to everyone who won money.Sytemsman well done again mate sorry to hear about your news get well soon you have made eurovision so much more enjoyable for me.True legend.I will try and get back next year.

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Update

Postby Systemsman » Sun May 24, 2015 7:41 pm

nahtanoj "I must learn I 2016 to separate my own love for song from my betting sense".

So true which is why the Team score is clear you vote for who you think will win. We have also posted this advice on here a number of times (a mistake I have also made in the past) but it gets buried in the huge number of posts - worth remembering by all for next year.

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Update

Postby Systemsman » Sun May 24, 2015 7:51 pm

I was only after the winner but how did my own Team score do?

Systemsman's vote:

6pts Sweden 1st
5pts Italy 3rd
4pts Russia 2nd
3pts Estonia 7th
2pts Serbia 10th
1pt Norway 8th

Not bad but to be fair had I scored a little later I would have placed Russia 2nd. Missed 3rd , 4th and 5th.

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Update

Postby Systemsman » Sun May 24, 2015 8:01 pm

My prediction for 2015 ESC posted in May 2014 after last years contest - how did it do? Given in no order of merit.

So for 2015 East Europe is overdue a winner. Take a good look at these countries.

Sweden 1st
Armenia 16th
The Netherlands ---
Denmark ---
Azerbaijan 12th
Ukraine Non entry?
Norway 8th
Russia 2nd
Serbia 10th
Italy 3rd

So 1st and 2nd and 3rd in that list. Not bad was it for one year in advance using my Eurovision system.

2016 list will be posted soon.

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Postby meldettori » Mon May 25, 2015 2:46 am

From wiwi blogs:
Ukraine: Broadcaster NTU pledges to return to Eurovision in 2016

No reason why they shouldn't, so must enter calculations.
By the way, a Big 5 country is also due a win, way overdue.

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Postby willieboy » Mon May 25, 2015 7:59 am

My take on it after the dust has settled......
1st...well done systemsman..hope all goes well for you (I`m on chemo myself)
At one time during the final...only country on blue (oddsdchecker) besides Russia and Sweden...was Serbia...this then started to drift and as I had Russia e/w at 20/1...I had to get a bet on Sweden...but could only get 6/5 on Wm Hill at a time it had started to drift slightly.
I personally thought the stage show won it for Sweden...it was something new and very impressive.
Agree with some other members about some ridiculous posts...if. in fact. the whole thing was actually true...may have been someone having a laugh.
(certainly gone quiet!)

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Eurovision 2016 - winner?

Postby Systemsman » Mon May 25, 2015 11:33 am

ESC 2016 - who will win?
Using my ESC system this is a short list of those who could win in 2016. It worked in 2015 but its no guarantee it will again - but it does get us a shorter list to look at for those pre qualify bets etc. Sweden cannot be totally ignored but they would have to produce something very special (much better than 2015) to be in the running (and they will probably want a brake now. Austria i think we can safely ignore). We must also not forget anything thats very unusual of very different that stands out from the crowd (like the Russian grannies or Austria 2014).

2015
1. Sweden (won 2012, 3rd 2013, won 2015 - time for a rest I think unless something very special indeed).
2. Russia
3. Italy
4. Belgium

2014
1. Austria (a one off unlikely to win again soon)
2. The Netherlands
3. Sweden (1st in 2012)
4. Armenia

2013
1. Denmark (4th in 2010)
2. Azerbaijan
3. Ukraine
4. Norway

2012
1. Sweden (3rd in 201)
2. Russia
3. Serbia
4. Azerbaijan (won 2011)

So we have a short list off 9/10 against the field (in no order of merit):
Russia
Italy
Belgium
The Netherlands
Armenia
Denmark
Azerbaijan
Ukraine (if entered)
Norway
Serbia

West Europe V East Europe

WEST (5)
Italy
Belgium
The Netherlands
Denmark
Norway

EAST (4/5)
Russia
Armenia
Azerbaijan
Ukraine (if entered)
Serbia

I think we can all agree you do need a good stage show as well as a very good song and the singer has to be able to sing the song "live" not just a studio version.

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Roundup

Postby Systemsman » Mon May 25, 2015 11:44 am

I am sure the posts will now dry up in the next day or two so if anyone has a tip or advice or post contest views now is the time to post it up.

Any views on those YouTube viewing figures anyone?

Its been a fun year but sorting out those top three was hard indeed.

The new ESC 2016 thred will be started on Jan 1st 2016.

Big thanks to all the Team. It was lot of fun for sure.

If any ESC news come sup of interest before Jan 1st we will post it on this thred. Hope Ukraine does enter as I have it on the ESC system short list for 2016..

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