Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

jaydubs
Stallion
Tips
Posts: 5781
Joined: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:00 am
Contact:

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby jaydubs » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:45 am

2 thoughts...

I was at the preview night last year and on the whole there was not a great deal of new info.. this horse will romp home etc... however Tizzard was very effusive about 1 of his horses Sizing Codelco on more than one occasion during the night. Now that didn't win at Chelt but did at Aintree and Punchestown... I am wondering now of all the preview nights how many pundits are worth listening to.. does anyone have records or thoughts on this?

Secondly... with the beast from the east heading in I would expect a lot of racing to be cancelled over the next week or two.. so any horses not having had it's prep run may struggle and also the ground at chelt will more than likely be good to soft but I would suspect having been under cover for some time a bit dead which may see us needing those that definitely see a trip out

Thoughts

Nunnylad
Classic Winner
Tips
Posts: 814
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:00 am

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby Nunnylad » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:35 pm

2 thoughts...

I was at the preview night last year and on the whole there was not a great deal of new info.. this horse will romp home etc... however Tizzard was very effusive about 1 of his horses Sizing Codelco on more than one occasion during the night. Now that didn't win at Chelt but did at Aintree and Punchestown... I am wondering now of all the preview nights how many pundits are worth listening to.. does anyone have records or thoughts on this?
I watched a number of previews last year and made notes of horses that were mentioned. I think from the Betfair one not one horse won that was properly tipped up and I don't think any of the charity bets won although I would have to rewatch to be sure. At the end of the day all they are are peoples opinions, I would personally watch a number of them and use it to form a better picture of a race. If you have a race where 10 different people have picked 5 different horses then maybe it's a race just to have a fun bet or two on it but then if there's one where people keep going back to the same horse/couple horses maybe have a more serious bet.

I have my own opinion on a lot of the races and use the previews as a guide and take information from trainers about who's been working well at home and who they think is well handicapped for the handicap races. Jamie Codd was fantastic last year when he talked up 50-1 shot Labaik and that made my festival right there with the information he provided about the horse saying it's the best work horse he had seen, or words to had effect. Had he not said that I'd never have backed the horse.

I'd say some of the tips for Cheltenham can be "saved" for Aintree however. I remember people banging on about Sizing Codelco last year but the horse has no form around Cheltenham and hates the place so I left it for that, but given how well he'd been talked up I had a decent lump on at Aintree and he hacked up.

Always makes me laugh watching the Betfair preview cus they do price boosts throughout the night and I don't see why they are worth doing because I personally cannot have more than about 30p on any sportsbook bet and I imagine the vast majority of people who are either are the preview night of watching at home live will also be restricted to some extent. Plus, we all know that price boost horses are generally speaking the ones bookies fancy to get beat in wide open races anyway so they are not for me.

Nunnylad
Classic Winner
Tips
Posts: 814
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:00 am

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby Nunnylad » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:41 pm

Forgot the mention I really rate Tom Malone if he is doing any previews this year, the guy is so informative about racing and has a different angle compared to the majority who are ultimately just pundits. Could listen to him talk about horses all day long.

The Market Man
At Stud
User avatar
Betting Blog Tips
Posts: 2671
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:00 am
Contact:

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby The Market Man » Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:27 pm

2 thoughts...

I was at the preview night last year and on the whole there was not a great deal of new info.. this horse will romp home etc... however Tizzard was very effusive about 1 of his horses Sizing Codelco on more than one occasion during the night. Now that didn't win at Chelt but did at Aintree and Punchestown... I am wondering now of all the preview nights how many pundits are worth listening to.. does anyone have records or thoughts on this?

Secondly... with the beast from the east heading in I would expect a lot of racing to be cancelled over the next week or two.. so any horses not having had it's prep run may struggle and also the ground at chelt will more than likely be good to soft but I would suspect having been under cover for some time a bit dead which may see us needing those that definitely see a trip out

Thoughts
The weather - using Wetterzentrale, there appears to be a decent chance of a return to showers / wet weather after this cold snap. However, from what I can see, the cold might return for Imperial Cup weekend, before giving way to warm air from the South. There’s a chance we have the covers on that weekend and, from what I remember a few years ago when they had covers down during the meeting, the ground was pretty dead and many horses preferring decent ground simply didn’t act on it. We won’t know for another ten days or so...

Preview nights - I’ve found many of the British ones to be dull as dishwater when the usual suspects are involved. Certain pundits and ex jockeys only ever mention the favourites or question if a horse will get up the hill.

I look out for a journalist or trainer whom i respect or isn’t connected to a major owner and won’t mind informing us of a potential plot or rumour about a piece of work. Someone who points out a really good piece of form which may have been forgotten about since the Autumn.

Nicholls can be worth listening to, some of the Irish preview nights can be very informative, sometimes if a top jockey or trainer only mentions a horse briefly. Russell can be a goldmine and is often a shrewd judge on which side of the Irish has the better juveniles or novices.

A panel of English and Irish pundits is often interesting as they challenge each other’s perceptions of race form etc.

jaydubs
Stallion
Tips
Posts: 5781
Joined: Sun Mar 09, 2008 12:00 am
Contact:

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby jaydubs » Mon Feb 26, 2018 6:46 pm

TMM thanks for the input.. I like you have found that the faves are talked about and horses not getting up the hill... I just found Tizzard very good last year and very positive so will take note of some of the names you mentioned...

I'm only 5 or 6 miles from the racecourse and weather has been cold for the last few days with more of the same forecast including snow... we all know how wrong the weatherman get it but it's maybe worth following the continent weather to see when the beast clears them for an idea for us . Glad you confirmed my memory of dead ground

Gman84
At Stud
User avatar
Betting Blog Tips
Posts: 4640
Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:00 pm
Location: Liverpool, UK

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby Gman84 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 8:39 pm

I think it was the ATR preview last year where they had Jamie Codd on the panel and he had some excellent insight, tipped up Labaik on the first day!
Grand National - Pinstickers Guide Blog

I am raising money for Cancer Research in memory of my wife. If you would like to help please follow the link below:

https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/juliebrophy

Nunnylad
Classic Winner
Tips
Posts: 814
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:00 am

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby Nunnylad » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:11 pm

I think it was the ATR preview last year where they had Jamie Codd on the panel and he had some excellent insight, tipped up Labaik on the first day!
As I mentioned 3 posts above :wink:

It's a damn shame he isn't on it again this year, he also tipped up Fayonagh for the Bumper last year

The Market Man
At Stud
User avatar
Betting Blog Tips
Posts: 2671
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:00 am
Contact:

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby The Market Man » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:28 pm

Codd is doing the Inside Track preview the week before the festival, also one with Tom Malone a few days earlier. Just keep checking back here or on YouTube

He’s on a Burning Ambition in the Foxhunters and that now stands out like a sore thumb

Gman84
At Stud
User avatar
Betting Blog Tips
Posts: 4640
Joined: Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:00 pm
Location: Liverpool, UK

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby Gman84 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:39 pm

I've knocked up this blog about some of the smaller yards that will be taking aim at some of the big prizes at the festival:

https://www.olbg.com/blogs/post.php?id=413735
Grand National - Pinstickers Guide Blog

I am raising money for Cancer Research in memory of my wife. If you would like to help please follow the link below:

https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/juliebrophy

The Market Man
At Stud
User avatar
Betting Blog Tips
Posts: 2671
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:00 am
Contact:

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby The Market Man » Sun Mar 04, 2018 7:51 pm

The BetBright preview is worth watching on YouTube. The crowd is a bit raucous at times but Kealy and Jennings are in fair form.

The Weatherbys one is quieter, something to listen to during study.

Nunnylad
Classic Winner
Tips
Posts: 814
Joined: Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:00 am

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby Nunnylad » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:27 pm

I skipped a lot of the Weatherbys one but listened to everything Harry Skelton had to say, some really interesting insights from him IMO and worth going out of your way to watch.

The Market Man
At Stud
User avatar
Betting Blog Tips
Posts: 2671
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:00 am
Contact:

Re: Cheltenham Festival 2018 stats and preview night info

Postby The Market Man » Mon Mar 05, 2018 7:27 pm

Henderson, Harrington, De Boinville and co live preview on YouTube at 7.45pm tonight

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users