Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

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Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

Postby Gman84 » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:49 pm

I guess this is being looked at as the biggest fight of the year so far but frankly I'll be more excited if the Dillian Whyte - Dereck Chisora rematch happens as their first fight was a real tear up and it appears that a rematch could well happen in this undercard although Whyte still fancies getting a crack at Deontay Wilder.

As for the main event, Joshua is the early favourite at 10/21 with WK just over 2/1. For K;itschkp this has to be it, win or bust but he's been inactive for over a year and frankly was extremely disappointing versus Tyson Fury although Joshua might suit him more in that he isn't going to be quirky or arkward like Fury can be.

Still a ways to go but no harm in hearing people's early thoughts.
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Re: Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

Postby BadReligion » Fri Feb 03, 2017 11:06 am

Wladimir Klitschko was not only poor against Fury but also looked awful against Bryant Jennings and should have been disqualified against Povetkin.

Wladimir is a highly skilled fighter but he doesn't take any risks. I don't expect Joshua to tire in the later rounds because Klitschko doesn't throw enough punches to make it a tough fight and isn't going to be able to lean on Joshua. Klitschko had never fought a fighter like Fury before and he probably hasn't fought anyone like Joshua either so even the experience he has might not be as advantageous. Kitschko is expected to make at least $20m for this fight and even though he doesn't need the money it's still worth getting in the ring for that kind of payday. He doesn't have many paydays left.

I think Joshua will win but it's not a fight I can bet on.

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Re: Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

Postby NeilHines » Fri Apr 28, 2017 1:13 pm

I am pretty sure myself that Joshua will win this fight by storm. He is undefeated up till now. He's much faster than Klitschko and has a fighting style that Wlad has ever seen before. I just wish I could make it to Wembley Arena, but I'll be watching this. So, my predictions for the fight is that Joshua will win and Wlad would retire on a good note.

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Re: Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

Postby Gman84 » Fri Apr 28, 2017 4:05 pm

I'm going for Anthiny Joshua on points at 6/1 with several firms.

Klitschko may be 41 and inactive for a long time but he's no mug and he'll be wanting to drag this into the later rounds where AJ has never been. However, I think AJ will last just fine and will do the better work but he won't get the KO but a solid points win.
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Re: Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

Postby Casino55 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:04 am

I'm with you gman84 I think it will Joshua on points klitchko is no fool and this is probably his last big payday but I think Joshua has got more class than fury so I'm saying AJ points win

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Re: Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

Postby Bobsselections » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:12 pm

Same here Gman as it is thirteen years since Klitshco failed to finish a fight.

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Re: Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

Postby Randy Rann » Sat Apr 29, 2017 1:52 pm

Good shout gents

I'm on the Joshua to win on points at 6-1 with William Hills, though I have had cover bets on him to win in rounds 10, 11 & 12 as I feel time may well catch up with Klitschko tonight.

I was lucky enough to go to the weigh in yesterday at Wembley Arena and you can't be anything other than impressed with AJ, physically and as a speaker.

He looks calm and just wants to fight. Kiltschko is no mug as you say and will fight behind his jab, but AJ will catch up with him at some point.

Tyson Fury outs-psyched Klitscko, but he looked poor in his fights since and has had a huge break from the ring. AJ won't lack for fitness and will last the distance better in my opinion as WK's legs go.

I don't expect early fireworks and it might even be cagey for a few rounds but for me AJ wins this. Klitschko's inactivity & age have to have an impact as the fight wears on and I wouldn't be surprised if it went all the way if he stays out of trouble, but Joshua can bide his time and finish the fight the stronger.

I'm looking forward to the fight and have booked it, but I would be surprised if it isn't a tear up but more of a chess match until the later rounds.............then boom!

Good luck with your punts and you're right gman, I can't wait for the Chisora-Whyte rematch whenever that happens, though they'll have to go some to better that fight.

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Re: Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

Postby Gman84 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:29 pm

Wow! What a fight.

I was a little surprised to find out Joshua was ahead on two score cards after it was stopped so if it had gone to the end my bet might well have been good but it didn't feel like he was ahead. The first four rounds felt cagey and even, maybe you could argue Joshua was ahead by a point at the end of rd 4 then the knockdown in rd 5 puts him 3 pts up but it was all Klitschko then for the next four rounds and he should have been 1 or 2 PST ahead in my mind at the start of rd 11.

Still, you did feel that in rd 10 the momentum was shifting. Joshua had been quiet in rds 7 & 8 and allowed himself to get himself back together after the nightmare of round 6 (that's some punch to get up from though it was bang on the temple the worse place to get hit - not that there are any good places to get punched!). Klitschko was holding more and more and once he finally broke through in rd 11 it was like letting the floodgates go and there was no holding back the changing tide.

Still, brilliant to watch, exactly what the division needed. Where AJ goes next will be interesting.
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Re: Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

Postby Casino55 » Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:11 pm

Personally I think AJ would be found out by a younger boxer,he looked dodgy a few times tonight in my opinion

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Re: Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

Postby BadReligion » Wed May 10, 2017 3:38 pm

It was a great fight that exceeded my expectations. I agree with Teddy Atlas when he said if Klitschko was a body puncher he might have found it easier to get Joshua out of there in the 6th. I also agree with him that in previous years people were spoiled with great heavyweight fights and it's only because we have had a 10 year drought people are getting excited about this fight. It was a magnificent performance by Klitschko who was on his toes throughout but if you look at him physically he looks like an old man compared to how he was when he fought Haye. There is no way a 41 year old can compete with an elite younger fighter but the fact he did shows Joshua's limitations and perhaps Klitschko wasn't as washed up as I thought.

The reason I am posting here today is because I think there is a huge opportunity for us all to make money betting against Joshua in some up-coming fights. Whilst Joshua came in heavy (we should keep an eye on his weight in future) he only had two bursts against Klitschko. The first knocked him down in rd 5 and in rd 11 it was the uppercut that caught Klitschko that ended the fight. Joshua was missing when he had him on the ropes and like Luis Ortiz said it's possible he would have gassed again. The point i'm trying to make is that in a 12 round fight he only had two bursts in him and that is not enough. It might be enough against Parker who doesn't have a good defence but Wilder will not fight the same fight as he does against all these bums who he knows can't hurt him. Wilder will fight the controlled fight as he did against Washington and he won't be wide open. Then there is Tyson Fury who is a lot more slick Klitshcko.

I agree that if Joshua catches anyone clean it's over but he is only active for a short period. There are many markets to bet on and some of those may offer value because based on that performance I can't see Joshua ever winning on points against skilled fighters. Yes he could have won on points against Whyte and Dominic Brazil but they aren't champions they were overmatched. Therefore, it's the knockout or nothing (despite the erroneous judges having him up against Klitshcko). Joshua is going to be short odds against anyone he fights and it's a big opportunity because he was only potent for 3 minutes of a 12 round fight. Klitshcko got tired and he might not have been caught by that uppercut earlier on. Wilder can maintain a high punch output throughout a fight and he has power. People might criticise his windmills but those wide punches are effective when your opponent is hurt.

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Re: Anthony Joshua Vs Wladimir Klitschko : Saturday 29th April

Postby Gman84 » Tue May 16, 2017 9:40 am

I get how you have built that theory Bad Regilion and you could well be right. What we don't know is how much Joshua gains from that fight in terms of experience and future prep. He was taken to places he hasn't been before and had he faced Klitschko in his prime he'd have been out of there but as pleased as he will be to have gotten through it he also knows he has to heed the warnings that were given and I think he's smart enough to do that.

The talk is he'll face Klitschko again on October 28th in Cardiff. If that happens I think he comes through that. Assuming he wins and the IBF allow him to sidestep his madatory then he'll have to face Kubrat Pulev. Not the biggest fight out there but assuming he wants to stick to the plan and then look at the likes of Wilder/Parker/Fury (assuming he can return) then he has more experience.

I do agree however that he's a fighter that doesn't look like he'll ever go the distance. He gets you you're in trouble and he'll face bigger punchers than Klitschko as he goes on down the road.
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