The Oscars 2010

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The Oscars 2010

Postby nors » Fri Feb 05, 2010 12:01 pm

Betting and shortlists have been announced and i have been folowing since the Golden Globes.

James Camerons Avatar i thought prior to the Golden Globes was a block buster that critics and the public would be against as it cost so much cash in these recessionary times.

I was more in favour of up in the air and hurt locker both of which performed poorly in the gglobes. So got that completely wrong as Avatar scooped most of the awards.

Now most people expect Avatar to do well in the Oscars, but the bookies looking for some action in the market have drifted James Cameron in the Best director category to around 6/4 in what is essentially a two horse race. With Betfair he is 3.0.

This to me looks too big a price and i would expect over the coming weeks for this to shorten to nearer 11/10 or odds on.

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Postby tomtwist2 » Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:36 pm

Are there any bookies that will take decent sized bets for the oscars?

I've tried Paddy Power and Boylesports and the most I could put on with them was less than £20....

Ladbrokes were good last year with the film awards but this year it's ridiculous. Can't put more than a tenner in most cases and even less for outsiders.

Does anyone know what sort of limit Betfred have on their Oscars market?

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Postby joeyteaspoons » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:45 pm

Now most people expect Avatar to do well in the Oscars, but the bookies looking for some action in the market have drifted James Cameron in the Best director category to around 6/4 in what is essentially a two horse race. With Betfair he is 3.0.

This to me looks too big a price and i would expect over the coming weeks for this to shorten to nearer 11/10 or odds on.


Kathryn Bigelow will win best director. The acadamy likes to share awards out usually and if she wins she will be the first woman director to win the oscar. Most women in the academy will vote for her she also has the backing of most critics.

They do not want Avatar to sweep the board because its widely acknowledged in the industry that its not deserving enough too. Cameron won the golden globe but they are not always a good indicator.

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Postby snoopydoo » Sat Feb 27, 2010 9:49 am

Consider ofcourse the catagories of the Oscars itself, not as the bookmakers present them. There is for example I believe a seperate catagory for Best Art Director which suits Avatar quite well, as opposed to Best Director.
(worst film I ve seen this year was district 9 which I find unbelievable to be nominated)

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Postby sockman90 » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:24 am

Snoopydoo quite surprised at you comment on District 9 i quite enjoyed it. You see all this alen stuff in films but felt this was a totally different take on it. The fact it started as a documentary then went in to the film proper was quite refreshing compared to a lot of movies we see.

The surprise for me in the whole oscar scene is the nominations for Hurt Locker it left me feeling like i had wasted my time, it was suppose to be full of tension as it was based around bomb disposal unit but it didnt grip me dont get me wrong it was well shot and directed but i do not see it is worthy of the critical acclaim it has got. If it wins an oscar i think i am right in saying it will be the lowest grossing box office movie ever to win one.

Up in the air surprised me a very thoughtful movie with George Clooney the hosewives favorite, well made and well acted and makes you think about your own life in a funny sort of way and would like to see that pick up something.

Avatar thoroughly enjoyable the cinematography is a joy to behold this coupled with a strong storyline was excellent and feel this deserves all the success it gets. And this is a movie which has broke all box office records therefore the people have spoken with this one.

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Postby betking » Sat Feb 27, 2010 10:48 am

(worst film I ve seen this year was district 9 which I find unbelievable to be nominated)
District 9 was a very, very good film, surprised to see you say that. Guess everyone has different tastes though.
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Postby man o bong » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:00 am

Quite agree,

I thoroughly enjoyed the film, but ive just thought back now to one of the closing scenes where the alien says 3 years i promise, and stand alone, it sounds naff.

Anyway, im not overly critical of films cos i dont see many, but i enjoyed it,

Saw Wolfman this week, and that, whilst done a hundred times was good and Hopkins is always threatening whatever role he plays, whilst Sherlock Holmes which i saw last week, surprised me a great deal, i was reluctant to except Downey Junior as Sherlock, but he played the part brilliantly, and i thought the film was great. In fact ive not seen a bad film for a while, Avatar is right up my street and I thought, was exceptional
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Postby snoopydoo » Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:55 am

not dissing any film here,.. but the metaphor of this film just seemed ridiculous.
Something along the line of reflecting South African apartheid where the aliens represent the original Africans thrown into a white man s world who opresses with complete disregard of their cultural value.
Im not sure anyone did get this but I felt it was very insulting to the human effort actually.
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both District 9 and Avatar have a main character (the villainous perpetrator) whose ass you just want beaten. This is the western interpretation of a feel good factor we all can agree on, much like Bollywood films where a guy beats up 20 other guys for the feel good factor of being a hero. These however are not believable characters.
A jury for the Oscars is an intelligent jury who use criteria such as,.. "are all the characters believable" and this is simply not the case here. No one is really a "blank" like that. Thus Avatar will not win.
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Backing The Hurt Locker for its realistic portrayel as well as actor Jeremy Renner here for the simple fact the role suited him so well it seemed like he wasn t acting at all.

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Postby joeyteaspoons » Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:29 pm

District 9 was absolute garbage. Aliens who eat cat food, get involved in prostitution and seem just plain stupid, with a real unbelievable cheesy story to boot.

The scene where the people are trying to evict them and getting them to sign forms is stupid, we assume that these primitive worker aliens know what signatures and and that they all have names.

I know its suppose to be clever in the way its depicting apartheid but apartheid was nothing like its depicted, nobody was evicted in apartheid, nobody lived in tented cities.

Stories bad, actions bad, characters are awful and the effects are nothing to write home about either. Hope it wins nothing.

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Postby SmoggyFever » Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:40 pm

Hurt Locker has to win at least one, very good film, with a good use of cameo roles for big names. Liked it a lot

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Postby sockman90 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:50 am

Full list of Nominations for this years Oscars.

Actress in a supporting role
Mo'Nique in Precious
Vera Farmiga in Up in the Air
Penélope Cruz in Nine
Anna Kendrick in Up in the Air
Maggie Gyllenhaal in Crazy Heart

Actor in a supporting role
Christoph Waltz in Inglourious Basterds
Christopher Plummer in The Last Station
Matt Damon in Invictus
Stanley Tucci in The Lovely Bones
Woody Harrelson in The Messenger

Actress in a leading role
Meryl Streep in Julie & Julia
Sandra Bullock in The Blind Side
Helen Mirren in The Last Station
Gabourey Sidibe in Precious
Carey Mulligan in An Education

Actor in a leading role
Morgan Freeman in Invictus
Jeff Bridges in Crazy Heart
George Clooney in Up in the Air
Colin Firth in A Single Man
Jeremy Renner in The Hurt Locker

Animated feature film
Up (Pete Docter and Bob Peterson)
The Princess and the Frog (Ron Clements and John Musker)
Coraline (Henry Selick)
Fantastic Mr Fox (Wes Anderson)
The Secret of Kells (Tomm Moore)

Foreign language film
Ajami (Scandar Copti and Yaron Shani, Israel)
A Prophet (Jacques Audiard, France)
The Secret of Her Eyes (Juan Jose Campanella, Argentina)
The White Ribbon (Michael Haneke, Germany)
The Milk of Sorrow (Claudia Llosa, Peru)

Directing
Avatar (James Cameron)
The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow)
Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino)
Up in the Air (Jason Reitman)
Precious (Lee Daniels)

Writing (adapted screenplay)
District 9 (Neill Blomkamp and Terri Tatchell)
An Education (Nick Hornby)
Precious (Geoffrey Fletcher)
Up in the Air (Jason Reitman and Sheldon Turner)
In the Loop (Jesse Armstrong, Simon Blackwell, Armando Iannucci and Tony Roche)

Writing (original screenplay)
The Hurt Locker (Mark Boal)
Inglourious Basterds (Quentin Tarantino)
A Serious Man (Joel and Ethan Coen)
Up (Pete Docter and Bob Petersen)
The Messenger (Alessandro Camon and Oren Moverman)

Best picture
Avatar (James Cameron and Jon Landau, producers)
District 9 (Peter Jackson and Carolynne Cunningham, producers)
An Education (Finola Dwyer and Amanda Posey, producers)
The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow, Mark Boal, Nicolas Chartier and Greg Shapiro, producers)
Inglourious Basterds (Lawrence Bender, producer)
Precious (Lee Daniels, Sarah Siegel-Magness and Gary Magness, producers)
A Serious Man (Joel Coen and Ethan Coen, producers)
Up in the Air (Daniel Dubiecki, Ivan Reitman and Jason Reitman, producers)
The Blind Side (Gil Netter, Andrew A Kosove and Broderick Johnson, producers)
Up (Jonas Rivera, producer)

Art direction
Avatar (art direction: Rick Carter and Robert Stromberg; set decoration: Kim Sinclair)
The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus (art direction: Dave Warren and Anastasia Masaro; set decoration: Caroline Smith)
Nine (art direction: John Myhre; set decoration: Gordon Sim)
Sherlock Holmes (art direction: Sarah Greenwood; set decoration: Katie Spencer)
The Young Victoria (art direction: Patrice Vermette; set decoration: Maggie Gray)

Cinematography
Avatar (Mauro Fiore)
Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (Bruno Delbonnel)
The Hurt Locker (Barry Ackroyd)
Inglourious Basterds (Robert Richardson)
The White Ribbon (Christian Berger)

Costume design
Bright Star (Janet Patterson)
Coco Before Chanel (Catherine Leterrier)
The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus (Monique Prudhomme)
Nine (Colleen Atwood)
The Young Victoria (Sandy Powell)

Documentary (feature)
Burma VJ (Anders Østergaard and Lise Lense-Møller)
The Cove (Louie Psihoyos and Fisher Stevens)
Food, Inc (Robert Kenner and Elise Pearlstein)
The Most Dangerous Man in America: Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers (Judith Ehrlich and Rick Goldsmith)
Which Way Home (Rebecca Cammisa)

Documentary (short subject)
China's Unnatural Disaster: The Tears of Sichuan Province (Jon Alpert and Matthew O'Neill)
The Last Campaign of Governor Booth Gardner (Daniel Junge and Henry Ansbacher)
The Last Truck: Closing of a GM Plant (Steven Bognar and Julia Reichert)
Music by Prudence (Roger Ross Williams and Elinor Burkett)
Rabbit à la Berlin (Bartek Konopka and Anna Wydra)

Film editing
Avatar (Stephen Rivkin, John Refoua and James Cameron)
District 9 (Julian Clarke)
The Hurt Locker (Bob Murawski and Chris Innis)
Inglourious Basterds (Sally Menke)
Precious (Joe Klotz)

Makeup
Il Divo (Aldo Signoretti and Vittorio Sodano)
The Young Victoria (Jon Henry Gordon and Jenny Shircore)
Star Trek (Barney Burman, Mindy Hall and Joel Harlow)

Music (original score)
Avatar (James Horner)
Fantastic Mr Fox (Alexandre Desplat)
Up (Michael Giacchino)
The Hurt Locker (Marco Beltrami and Buck Sanders)
Sherlock Holmes (Hans Zimmer)

Music (original song)
Almost There, from The Princess and the Frog, by Randy Newman
Down in New Orleans, from The Princess and the Frog, by Randy Newman
Loin de Paname, from Paris 36, by Reinhardt Wagner and Frank Thomas
Take It All, from Nine, by Maury Yeston
The Weary Kind, from Crazy Heart, by Ryan Bingham and T Bone Burnett

Short film (animated)
French Roast (Fabrice O Joubert)
Granny O'Grimm's Sleeping Beauty (Nicky Phelan and Darragh O'Connell)
Logoramam (Nicolas Schmerkin)
The Lady and the Reaper (Javier Recio Gracia)
A Matter of Loaf and Death (Nick Park)

Short film (live action)
The Door (Juanita Wilson and James Flynn)
Instead of Abracadabra (Patrik Eklund and Mathias Fjellström)
Kavi (Gregg Helvey)
Miracle Fish (Luke Doolan and Drew Bailey)
The New Tenants (Joachim Back and Tivi Magnusson)

Sound editing
Avatar (Christopher Boyes and Gwendolyn Yates Whittle)
The Hurt Locker (Paul NJ Ottosson)
Inglourious Basterds (Wylie Stateman)
Star Trek (Mark Stoeckinger and Alan Rankin)
Up (Michael Silvers and Tom Myers)

Sound mixing
Avatar (Christopher Boyes, Gary Summers, Andy Nelson and Tony Johnson)
The Hurt Locker (Paul NJ Ottosson and Ray Beckett)
Inglourious Basterds (Michael Minkler, Tony Lamberti and Mark Ulano)
Star Trek (Anna Behlmer, Andy Nelson and Peter J Devlin)
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen (Greg P Russell, Gary Summers and Geoffrey Patterson)

Visual effects
Avatar (Joe Letteri, Stephen Rosenbaum, Richard Baneham and Andrew R Jones)
District 9 (Dan Kaufman, Peter Muyzers, Robert Habros and Matt Aitken)
Star Trek (Roger Guyett, Russell Earl, Paul Kavanagh and Burt Dalton)

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Postby mrhead66 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:49 am

Saw Wolfman this week, and that, whilst done a hundred times was good and Hopkins is always threatening whatever role he plays
Each to their own i guess!! Just my opinion (of course!!) but I absolutely loved District 9 and think it's probably the best movie I've seen at theatres this year while Wolfman was perhaps the worst movie I've seen ever!!

I read a review of wolfman a while back that sums up my feelings...

"This movie then has no redeeming features. It is poorly written, poorly directed, the acting is nonexistant, the special effects are amateurish at best. The whole movie is boring, predictable, lifeless. It truly is a travesty, an exercise in how not to make a Hollywood movie laid down for all to see."

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