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## Bookmakers & Betting## Systems & Strategies- Dutching
## Exchanges## Spread Betting## Horses## Football |
## What is Dutching?Dutching is the process of backing more than one selection in the same event to win the same amount whichever of those selections wins. It is not to be confused to arbing which involves backing all of the outcomes in an event to guarantee a profit, which is only possible using multiple bookmakers on a very select few events. Dutching is ideal for events with many outcomes where you think you have narrowed the possibilities down to usually two or three likely outcomes, although in theory you can Dutch any number of selections. The fewer selections you choose to Dutch, the less losers you will back and the more profit you should make. By Dutching fewer selections though you are increasing your risk.
One of the best uses of Dutching is if you either have information or a very strong feeling that certain outcomes are extremely unlikely. If those unlikely outcomes are huge odds then Dutching isnâ€™t going to be worthwhile but if you feel strongly that some well fancied outcomes are unlikely then Dutching the remaining likely selections can really pay dividends.
## How To Work Out The Different Stakes
The key feature of Dutching is that you win the same amount but with all the different odds involved it can sometimes be difficult to work out the stakes required.
## ExampleIf you are backing two selections, one at 5/1 and one at 8/1, and wish to win Â£100 whichever one wins: Split the odds into decimals (6.0 and 9.0) and divide the stake by the decimal odds. Â£100 / 6.0 = Â£16.66 Â£100 / 9.0 = Â£11.11 Total stake = Â£27.77 Alternatively you may have an idea of how much you want to bet on the event, in this case it may be about Â£30. You know roughly that your stake on the 6.0 chance should be around Â£20. To calculate how much to stake on the other selection: Â£20 x (6.0/9.0) = Stake on the bigger priced selection = Â£13.33 The total stake would be Â£33.33 and if either selection wins youâ€™d return Â£120
## Calculating Combined Odds
When Dutching it is important to remember that the selections you are backing come with combined odds. In order to select the best bets you still need to consider the odds and choose events where your combined selections have the best chance of winning relative to their odds rather than simply backing all of the selections you think might win.
## ExampleIf you are staking a total of Â£100 and the return for a winning bet is Â£150 then you are backing all of your selections at combined odds of 1/2 or 1.5 in decimal terms. When placing your Dutch bet you will have already worked out your stakes and total returns in order to place the bet with the same return for each outcome. Then to get the decimal odds of your bet simply divide the returns by your total stake. It might seem difficult to guess the combined odds if the numbers are a bit more random such as Â£279 winnings for an Â£82 stake but itâ€™s very easy to work out: Â£279 / Â£82 = Odds of 3.4, which is just shy of 5/2
## Advantages of Dutching
## Offers New Opportunities
One of the big advantages of Dutching is it creates new opportunities to make a profit. In the past you may have narrowed a big race down to two horses but found it too hard to pick between them and therefore left the race along. Alternatively you may have predicted a football match would be very low scoring but not been sure whether to back 0-0 or 1-0. With Dutching you can make these situations pay.
## Can Still Get Value
Just because you are backing more one selection it doesnâ€™t mean you arenâ€™t getting value. If you think that a short priced favourite is unlikely to oblige then two or more bigger priced selections in that event might offer great value. As long the returns from the combined bets are larger than the chance of one of those outcomes winning then you are getting value through Dutching.
## More Winning Bets
By Dutching you are decreasing your total odds but increasing your chances of winning. In theory this should result in more winning bets and therefore more frequent betting returns. This will help guard your betting bank against lean periods and should also give you a bit more enjoyment out of your betting.
## Disadvantages of Dutching## Dilution Of Profit
The more selections you bet on when Dutching the more you are going to decrease your total odds in each betting event. Therefore each time you decide to include any more selections you need to consider the fact that your strike rate will need to improve also to maintain a certain profit level. If you are Dutching and not winning very often you are going to burn through your betting bank very quickly.
## Reverse Dutching
Reverse Dutching sounds complicated but it is quite simply Dutching lay bets on the exchanges. All of the same principles apply, the more selections you lay the more likely your bet is to succeed but the less you will win. Meanwhile the fewer selections that you lay, the less likely you are to win but profitability should increase per bet.
## Dutching In PracticeOLBG memberMicko70 is a fan of Dutching when it comes to correct score betting and he has written an OLBG blog to show punters how he goes about selecting his bets and he can make it pay. You can read Micko70's blog on Dutching by clicking here. |

## Comments from the Forum

## monkeytennis

31 Jan 17:28

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## tomdouglas

8 Dec 20:16

## Zipster

8 Dec 21:34

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I then have the other nightmare of having say two selections at 9/2 & 16/1 which in terms of dutching would mean the following if say a £10 stake for the race...<br/>

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<B><s></s></B><LIST type="decimal"><s></s><LI><B>£7.56 on the 9/2<br/>

£2.44 on the 16/1</B></LI><e></e></LIST><i></i><br/>

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now if either of them wins then a return of £41.56 so a profit of £31.56 however if the 16/1 runner wins then I always have the feeling that I am losing out on winnings because if I had simple split my bet with £5 on each then the returns would have been £85 and a profit of £75 so the main question for me is whether or not I willing to take the chance!<br/>

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<B><s></s></B><LIST type="decimal"><s></s><LI><B>Dutch with a guaranteed profit of £31.56 if either wins<br/>

Split the stake equally with the chance of making a profit of either £17.50 or £75</B></LI><e></e></LIST><i></i><br/>

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I guess it all about greed in the end, would I be happy with a profit of £17.50? Of course I would! Any profit is a win no matter how small or big! I personally like to use Dutching when the difference in the price is less than 5 points, so a 9/2 & 6/1 then I would dutch, if I had like in the example a 9/2 & 16/1 then I tend to split the bet equally.<br/>

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I think most people will have their own ways of going about things but that is just how I tend to look at things.</r>

## johnyyydal24

9 Aug 08:13

then dutch the 0-0 and 1-1 draw which is priced at about 11 and 7 with a £3.75 dutch bet which gives you a £16.04 total for any team to draw with a 1-1 or 0-0 so both bets would cost you £13.75 which gives you a free draw bet with a profit of £2.29 total cost of bet . you might think that its not much but betting with 10 times your stake money would cost £137.50 for a profit of £22.90. but with a 2-2 draw or over you can lose.</t>

## Betfairalfie

9 Aug 08:28

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Alternatively you could lay 2-2 3-3 and Any Other Draw on betfair.<br/>

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I can't answer the questions about the accuracy of the prices you give nor its longterm profitability. But I do recommend dutching. Every one should learn to use a idutching calculator.</t>

## nors

9 Aug 09:21

## tomdouglas

9 Aug 11:07

In cycling markets, where there are likely to be over 160 runners, and generally around 20% of the field might have a realistic chance of being involved in the finish, there are opportunities to "cast a net" of small bets among the bigger odds on offer. <br/>

I've never thought of applying this theory to horse racing, it clearly isn't relevant in match betting, but perhaps it could work. I don't really follow horse racing these days, just a casual fan and observer, but the saver bet was always valid, and I'm sure that doing the calculations might work.</t>

## johnyyydal24

10 Aug 15:59

by Dutching the Under 0.5 Goals with the under 3.5 goals for a small profit. for instance<br/>

Fleetwood v Leeds 0.5 goals at 11 with the under 3.5 goals at 1.31 so for a £10 stake the profit would be £ 1.71. But different games could give you more or less.<br/>

There was a game played earlier and it was 20 minutes into the game and you were getting the same sort of price. following it long term could be a winner.</t>

## johnyyydal24

10 Aug 16:10

## johnyyydal24

10 Aug 16:55

## nors

8 Feb 09:27

## pumpdaball

20 Jul 18:36

This was no good to me, I am not a big bettor and I like to be in control of my outlay, so I programmed my own dutching calculator which is now a stand alone program, I can decide I want to lay out no more than lets say a tenner and input that amount then the odds and I have a readout of how much to put on each of the odds I input,,,,it works very well.

if there is a downside for it, I would say it makes you lazy, I mean that in the way of doing your homework, I tend to cover the extra one or two rather than put in hours of form study, not good. but otherwise I am proud of it and use it to great effect on mixed sporting events too, for example if one is right I would get at least my outlay back, if two occur then double the outlay and so on, it takes away stress too, no more nail biting...... Great topic Dutching which originated with Al Capone to launder money on horses, employing that guy to come up with a way to make sure he had a big chance of getting back his money, he wasn't into the profits so much I believe he just wanted to put on illegal money he had and get it paid back through a bookie to legalise him having same money.... anyway good topic

## sausagenose

30 Oct 08:10