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Post Posted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:15 pm     Post subject: de la Vuelta a Espana... Reply with quote

...starts on Sat 18th August. Two weeks to go then until the next major tour so I thought I'd get the thread up and running.

Looks to be a traditional vuelta course with plenty of summit finishes and mountain passes for the climbers after a TT orientated TDF.

Who are we looking at finishing on the top of the podium?

Contador, Cobo, Froome, J-Rod, Kreuziger are the ones that stand out from the provisional lists. The two Colombians lads at Sky have been in good form too but will surely support Froome in this.

Will be interesting to see how Contador goes. Has been out for a while but he has had this to look forward to for quite sometime now.
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:49 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

This is basically the Start List. A few Teams still have a couple of riders to sort out but most are pretty much set according to these sources. Will have more thoughts up closer to the time.

AG2R LA MONDIALE
BELLETTI Manuel Italy
BOUET Maxime France
GADRET John France
GEORGES Sylvain France
KADRI Blel France
MONDORY Lloyd France
NOCENTINI Rinaldo Italy
RIBLON Christophe France
ROCHE Nicholas Ireland

ANDALUCIA
CABELLO BAENA Antonio Spain
CESAR VELOSO Gustavo Spain
CHACON QUESADA Javier Spain
LOBATO DEL VALLE Juan Jose Spain
PALOMARES VILLAPLANA Adrian Spain
RAMIREZ ABEJA Javier Spain
ROSENDO PRADO Jesus Spain
RUIZ PINTO Eloy Spain
TORIBIO ALCOLEA Jose Vicente Spain

ASTANA PRO TEAM
BAZAYEV Assan Kazahkstan
DYACHENKO Alexsandr Kazahkstan
GASPAROTTO Enrico Italy
KASHECHKIN Andrey Kazahkstan
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik Sweden
SEELDRAYERS Kevin Belgium
SILIN Egor Russia
TIRALONGO Paolo Italy
ZEITS Andrey Kazahkstan

BMC RACING TEAM
BALLAN Alessandro Italy
BOOKWALTER Brent United States
CUMMINGS Steven United Kingdom
EIJSSEN Yannick Belgium
GILBERT Philippe Belgium
LODEWYCK Klaas Belgium
MOINARD Amaël France
MORABITO Steve Switzerland
SANTAMBROGIO Mauro Italy

CAJA RURAL
ANDONOV PETROV Danail Bulgaria
ARAMENDIA LORENTE Javier Spain
BROCO Hernani Portugal
CARDOSO Andre Fernando S. Martins Portugal
CARDOSO Manuel Antonio Leal Portugal
DE LA FUENTE RASILLA David Spain
GALDOS ALONSO Aitor Spain
GARCIA FERNANDEZ Marcos Spain
PIEDRA PEREZ Antonio Spain

COFIDIS LE CREDIT EN LIGNE
BAGOT Yohan France
BARLE Florent France
BUFFAZ Mickaël France
DUQUE Leonardo Colombia
GARCIA ETXEGIBEL Egoitz Spain
MATE MARDONES Luis Angel Spain
MOLARD Rudy France
MONCOUTIE David France
SIJMENS Nico Belgium

EQUIPE CYCLISTE FDJ-BIGMAT
BONNET William France
BOUCHER David France
BOUHANNI Nacer France
COURTEILLE Arnaud France
JEANNESSON Arnold France
PAURIOL Rémi France
ROLLIN Dominique Canada
SOUPE Geoffrey France
VAUGRENARD Benoît France

EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI
ANTON HERNANDEZ Igor Spain
CAZAUX Pierre France
LANDA MEANA Mikel Spain
MINGUEZ AYALA Miguel Spain
OROZ UGALDE Juan Jose Spain
SICARD Romain France
TXURRUKA ANSOLA Amets Spain
VELASCO MURILLO Ivan Spain
VERDUGO MARCOTEGUI Gorka Spain

GARMIN - SHARP
FERNANDEZ DE LARREA Koldo Spain
FISCHER Murilo Antonio Brazil
KREDER Michel Netherlands
KREDER Raymond Netherlands
LE MEVEL Christophe France
PETERSON Thomas United States
ROSSELER Sébastien Belgium
TALANSKY Andrew United States
VAN SUMMEREN Johan Belgium
VANMARCKE Sep Belgium

KATUSHA TEAM
BRUTT Pavel Russia
FLORENCIO CABRE Xavier Spain
IGNATENKO Petr Russia
LOSADA ALGUACIL Alberto Spain
MENCHOV Denis Russia
MORENO FERNANDEZ Daniel Spain
RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin Spain
SMUKULIS Gatis Latvia
VICIOSO ARCOS Angel Spain

LAMPRE - ISD
ANACONA Winner Anrew Colombia
CIMOLAI Davide Italy
CUNEGO Damiano Italy
KOSTYUK Denys Ukraine
KVACHUK Oleksandr Ukraine
MARZANO Marco Italy
NIEMIEC Przemyslaw Poland
POSSONI Morris Italy
VIGANO Davide Italy

LIQUIGAS - CANNONDALE
CAPECCHI Eros Italy
DA DALTO Mauro Italy
DALL'ANTONIA Tiziano Italy
MARANGONI Alan Italy
PATERSKI Maciej Poland
RATTO Daniele Italy
SALERNO Cristiano Italy
SARMIENTO TUNARROSA Cayetano José Colombia
VIVIANI Elia Italy

LOTTO - BELISOL TEAM
DE CLERCQ Bart Belgium
DEBUSSCHERE Jens Belgium
HANSEN Adam Australia
MEERSMAN Gianni Belgium
REYNES MIMO Vicente Spain
VAN DE WALLE Jurgen Belgium
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen Belgium
VAN LEIJEN Joost Netherlands
WILLEMS Frederik Belgium

MOVISTAR TEAM
CASTROVIEJO NICOLAS Jonathan Spain
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose Spain
INTXAUSTI ELORRIAGA Benat Spain
KIRYIENKA Vasil Belarus
LASTRAS GARCIA Pablo Spain
MORENO BAZAN Javier Spain
QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander Colombia
ROJAS GIL Jose Joaquin Spain
VENTOSO ALBERDI Francisco José Spain

OMEGA PHARMA - QUICKSTEP CYCLING TEAM
CATALDO Dario Italy
DE WEERT Kevin Belgium
DEVENYNS Dries Belgium
MARTIN Tony Germany
PAUWELS Serge Belgium
RABON Frantisek Czech Republic
STEEGMANS Gert Belgium
STYBAR Zdenek Czech Republic
TERPSTRA Niki Netherlands
VANDEWALLE Kristof Belgium

ORICA GREENEDGE
CLARKE Simon Australia
DAVIS Allan Australia
DEAN Julian New Zealand
DOCKER Mitchell Australia
MEYER Cameron Australia
MEYER Travis Australia
SULZBERGER Wesley Australia
TEKLEHAYMANOT Daniel Eritrea
WEENING Pieter Netherlands

RABOBANK CYCLING TEAM
BOOM Lars Netherlands
BRESCHEL Matti Denmark
CLEMENT Stef Netherlands
GARATE Juan Manuel Spain
GESINK Robert Netherlands
MOLLEMA Bauke Netherlands
NIERMANN Grischa Germany
TEN DAM Laurens Netherlands
VAN WINDEN Dennis Netherlands

RADIOSHACK - NISSAN
BAKELANTS Jan Belgium
BENNATI Daniele Italy
BUSCHE Matthew United States
DIDIER Laurent Luxembourg
GERDEMANN Linus Germany
HERMANS Ben Belgium
IRIZAR ARANBURU Markel Spain
MACHADO Tiago Portugal
MONFORT Maxime Belgium

SKY PROCYCLING
FLECHA GIANNONI Juan Antonio Spain
FROOME Christopher United Kingdom
HENAO MONTOYA Sergio Colombia
NORDHAUG Lars Petter Norway
PATE Danny United States
PUCCIO Salvatore Italy
STANNARD Ian United Kingdom
SWIFT Ben United Kingdom
URAN Rigoberto Colombia
ZANDIO ECHAIDE Xabier Spain

TEAM ARGOS-SHIMANO
DE KORT Koen Netherlands
DEGENKOLB John Germany
DOI Yukihiro Japan
DUMOULIN Tom Netherlands
FROHLINGER Johannes Germany
GENIEZ Alexandre France
GESCHKE Simon Germany
HUPOND Thierry France
JI Cheng China

TEAM SAXO BANK
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto Spain
HERNANDEZ BLAZQUEZ Jesus Spain
MAJKA Rafael Poland
NAVARRO GARCIA Daniel Spain
NOVAL GONZALEZ Benjamin Spain
PAULINHO Sergio Miguel Moreira Portugal
PIRES Bruno Portugal
SØRENSEN Nicki Denmark
TOSATTO Matteo Italy

VACANSOLEIL - DCM PRO CYCLING TEAM
DE GENDT Thomas Belgium
HOOGERLAND Johnny Netherlands
LAGUTIN Sergey Uzbekistan
LIGTHART Pim Netherlands
LINDEMAN Bertjan Netherlands
MOL Wouter Netherlands
RUYGH Rob Netherlands
VALLS FERRI Rafael Spain
VEUCHELEN Frederik Belgium
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Post Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:02 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Sergio Henao from team Sky is a decent climber.

He shot clear in the Tour Of Poland on a climb inside the last 5k and only just got caught on the line.

I might have a dabble on him to win a mountain stage

Have AG2R got any different riders, their team looks the same as what was in France

David Moncutie of Cofidis had a very poor Tour and he might win a stage here too

Surprised to see Jurgen Van Den Broeck riding here

Robert Gesink had a shocker in France and will want to redeem himself here

Overall it looks like a decent enough field but the lack of top sprinters will make the flatter stages harder to predict
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Post Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:43 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Great News for anyone who won't be around in the Day Time to see the Stages unfold. ITV4 will be providing the same Coverage that they provide for the Tour De France following this years Viewer Ratings.

http://www.itv.com/tourdefrance/news/itv-to-show-vuelta-a-espana-highlights-in-2012/
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Post Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:01 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

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Surprised to see Jurgen Van Den Broeck riding here


I'm not too shocked to be honest. I think the Course Layout for this years Vuelta suits VDB much more than the Tour De France he has just rode. I think he has ambitions of a Tour Podium with the lack of Individual Time Trialing and plenty of Summit Finishes. I don't personally think VDB will get a Top 3 but he is in good form and who knows. He misses that kick in the Mountains and is a notorious Wheel Tracker which at times holds him back. If he developed a knack of kicking in the Mountains, he could actually do some real damage.

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Contador, Cobo, Froome, J-Rod, Kreuziger are the ones that stand out from the provisional lists. The two Colombians lads at Sky have been in good form too but will surely support Froome in this.


Yea I agree that the Sky boys could be used as Domestiques for Froome dependant on how the race pans out, especially Uran. But they will certainly be nothing like the Domesiques Wiggins had available to him in the Tour De France. As for the overall names there, Kreuziger obviously doesn't ride, and I think the defending Champion Cobo doesn't have a chance of repeating his feat last year to be honest.

Main reason is that this years line up is much stronger. Froome could have won this race last year and despite an action filled calender this year he will have all the freedom he requires. VDB will be going in to the race in much better condition than he did last year when finishing 8th. Alberto Contador returns from his Ban eager I am sure. While Robert Gesink will be desperate to redeem his form following another poor Tour De France. This is without mentioning the very strong looking Joaquim Rodriguez, who didn't really figure for the overall last year. He looked great at the Giro and only lost by 16 seconds, as well as the very impressive 3rd placed finisher at the Giro in Thomas De Gendt who at just 25 looks like one of Cyclings most promising talents. He rode the ride of the Giro for me and has looked strong.

Overall I do believe this race is much stronger than last year and I can't even see Cobo getting on the Podium to be honest.

Looking at the team selections though Saxobank definitely look the strongest for me personally. Navarro, Sorensen, Paulinho. Contador definitely has some very handy guys come the mountains. VDB will probably have Bart De Clerq as his main man while Froome only really has a couple of riders to choose from come the climbing. Although Sky haven't got a bad team by any means, and are probably only outdone by Saxobank in my opinion who I think look well balanced, obviously preparing for this race and Contadors Return.

A severe lack of sprinters means some big break away gaps early on I feel. Some teams will be here solely for stage wins so that is something worth keeping an eye on. Should be a very good Vuelta though with this line up, Could be the best one for a few years. Glad ITV4 will also have the highlights.

Anyone else got any early thoughts?
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:58 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Valverde has confirmed his participation in the race for Movistar which will help Cobo out in his defence.
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:03 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

tell you one thing contador looks sharpe today on the Muurs of belgium, hopefully he goes back one day and starts riding more of the classics and fill up his palmaires.

Il be once again having goodl ook at this years vuelta.
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Post Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:56 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep I completely agree Manafana.

Look forward to your bets for this years Vuelta. Will you be doing a Preview mate? Or just bet selections for this one?

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Post Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 9:21 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

no fancy preview this time, but yeah il do up something of the like, going be a good old race should be some good break away days.
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Post Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:24 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Some decent reads to get us in the mood for this years race as the start draws ever closer.

Contador Says Froome Will Be Tough To Beat
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/contador-froome-will-be-tough-to-beat-at-the-vuelta

Froome Confident & Prefers Vuelta Of The 3 Grand Tours
http://road.cc/content/news/63372-chris-froome-looks-make-most-opportunity-lead-team-sky-vuelta

Jurgen Van Den Broecks Lotto Besisol Team Targeting Stage Wins
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/van-den-broeck-leads-lotto-belisol-vuelta-134545532.html

Thomas De Gendt Targets Stage Win But Stays Cool On His Overall Chances
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12627/Thomas-De-Gendt-to-lead-Vacansoleil-DCM-to-la-Vuelta-a-Espana.aspx

Joaquim Rodriguez's Katusha Team Target Overall Classification
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/rodriguez-lead-katusha-s-vuelta-charge-120259070.html

Movistar Manager States Strong Field Has Them Cautious About Winning Title Again
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12628/Movistar-emphasises-Vuelta-leadership-role-is-for-Cobo.aspx

Alessandro Ballan & Phillipe Gilbert To Target Stage Wins
http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/12636/Ballan-and-Gilbert-targeting-stages-in-Vuelta-a-Espana.aspx

Vuelta Is Moncouties Last Hurrah
http://www.sbs.com.au/cyclingcentral/news/38868/Moncoutie-set-for-one-last-hurrah-at-La-Vuelta
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:47 am     Post subject: Reply with quote

Last night TTT, have had few bets i logged their.

I think contador can be taken on by two guys who have alot going for them in J Rod and Froome.
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Post Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:38 pm     Post subject: Reply with quote

Small bet on a top 3 finish tonight for Team Katusha in the team time trial. Have some good TT riders within their squad and they have some good finishes in the rarely raced discipline this season.

2nd in the Giro over a longer course but only 2 secs outside of Greenedge and Omega Pharma Lotto recently on the Eneco Tour over 18K.

Katusha top 3 - 3.50
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