Re Main Line, it wasn't only his inexperience that cost him, it was his jockey's over-confidence/stupidity (delete as appropriate); was flying at the finish having travelled best of all at the top of the straight, albeit many lengths off the pace. Should relish another furlong or two.
Interesting that El Salvador runs in the silks of his breeder, Anthony Oppenheimer. It is hardly encouraging that Joseph O'Brien has chosen to ride an exposed stablemate, but it would be disappointing if this colt couldn't at least make the frame on his debut. _________________ Dark Horses 2013 - Flat
Wowser, theres been some massive effort and research thats gone into this thread by you guys and i applaud the write ups. ive just read the entire 6 page thats so far been put together in great detail and took plenty of notes and as a result missed most of the late afternoons racing however i did catch the first race at Newmarket and a Hannon horse more than caught the eye. Rhamnus- it fluffed the start badly and did wonders to finish 2nd, wont of gone unnoticed tho and likely to be skinny odds next time out. The last couple of days have showed signs that the Hannon 2yold team are starting to visit the winner enclosure on a more frequent basis like they have done so much the last couple of seasons. Two horses from the Hannon yard that has been highlighted in this thread (A LADIES MAN + RICHARD SENIOR) im going to follow for definate as ive heard good things about them from elsewhere too.
of the 2yolds that have ran so far has they been any that you were especially impressed by or would follow through rest of season?
i have liked Dawn Approach but im sure most will be of that opinion too and also New Pearl. Once again tho great write up
I think you have touched upon the two most exciting 2yos around at the moment (Dawn Approach and New Pearl), but Englishman really caught my eye when winning a traditionally informative 5f maiden at Newbury's Greenham meeting last month, picking up very well inside the final furlong to overhaul Smoothtalkinrascal and win going away.
The fourth, fifth and seventh all won next time out, and the fact that this colt was able to make up so much ground in testing conditions was very much to his credit; wouldn't be surprised to see him reappear in something such as the Listed National Stakes at Sandown next week en route to the Norfolk Stakes, though his pedigree and the way he shaped on debut open up the possibility of a crack at the Coventry Stakes. _________________ Dark Horses 2013 - Flat
2.20 Newmarket - Sharaareh
Aidan has already put up a write up in the selection Thread
4.30 Newmarket - Require
Three parts sister to temperamental 1m 2yo winner Plea (by Motivator) and closely related to very smart middle distance stayer Ask and 10f 3yo debut/2m hurdle winner Kensington Oval (both by Sadler's Wells), out of a twice-raced maiden half sister to Hardwicke Stakes winner Blueprint, excellent family. This daughter of Montjeu was never going to make up into a 2yo type, bred to excel over 10f at the very least; in the right hands to be brought along gradually, and it would be disappointing if she couldn't win at least a maiden this term.
Sorry I’ve been bit occupied recently and this thread hasn’t been updated for a while. Unfortunately I’m unlikely to be able to keep a proper run of this thread, but I’ll be updating it through the Season and for the next week should be able to keep up with the runners/results.
So this is what we’ve seen so far.
3 Year Olds
Aegaeus
3 Runs and he hasn’t been given a hard time off it at all and he will be very interesting to watch when he goes handicapping. We have yet to see anything of him and I don't envy the handicapper having to give him a rating. Ran well today without being asked a single question, will improve and looks to me a sure fire handicap winner before the end of the season.
Along
Seen just the once when finishing 4th on debut and looking shy of race fitness, entered in a maiden next week where we’ll hope to learn more.
BetterBetterBetter
She’s had 3 runs including winning a maiden at 1/4. She looks at good front running type who was given an easy ride when finishing 2nd on debut, before comfortably winning at short odds NTO. She should have won her listed event at Chester, but a coming together around the bend took her out of her stride which lead to her being caught on the line, clearly has the potential to win a Listed or Group race.
Biographer
Ran a good debut finishing 2nd behind a more experienced Stoute horse, where they were both held up off the pace and stayed on nicely. Impressive without winning and should be getting off the mark at the next opportunity.
Bishop Roko
Won on debut at 16/1 very easily. Unsure what he beat, but the horse in 3rd is held in high regard and won who will be making a big step up NTO and worth reinvesting.
Chicago
Eventually got off the mark in his 4th maiden after showing a good turn of foot despite finishing 5th on debut, IMO an overconfident ride in the next and he clearly isn’t a world beater, but this week should show us what O’Brien thinks as he has a entry in a group 3 and a handicap of a mark of 83.
El Salvador
Another I was impressed with on debut despite failing to win; he stayed on well without being giving a hard ride and was never in the same race as the front 2. He should come on for the experience and is entered in his 2nd maiden this week. Ideally I would like to see him tackle a couple of extra furlongs.
Ernest Hemingway
Very impressive on debut before taking his chance in the Dante where he was eased off. Should be up to group class and definitely worth another chance in a top race as something clearly went wrong LTO.
Father of Science
Another of O’Briens horses to disappoint on debut, but won on his 2nd appearance at Chester when backed into 5/2 Fav and he won it well. 4th at Chester has been out and won since and Father of Science deserves a shot at a bigger prize NTO
Hajras
Won 1st 2 before being beat by the in-form Expense Claim. He finished clear of the rest and we’ll know more about whether he can step up again after Expense Claim runs tomorrow going for his 4-timer, but he does have a 4lb hike in the weights despite not winning the race.
If So
Beaten by horses rated only in the 60s on debut, but the positive has to be he is hardly bred to be a horse that will go well fresh and will improve, related to Deacon Blues who just kept improving with age.
Khazeena
Run in 2 maidens so far and despite not winning has shown a bit of promise. Holds an entry in the Ribblesdale at Ascot and I think it is fair to say she won’t be up to that, but she needs 1 more run before she goes handicapping where I think we’ll see better from her.
Lebron
Well backed on debut before disappointing and finishing 8th, but O’Brien hasn’t been firing in 1st time out winners and he should come on for the run. 5th and 6th both won NTO and 9th was beaten by a head so there is plenty of hope there.
Main Line
Very impressive winner at 10/1 on debut, before running 4th at Kempton in a race where everything conspired against him. I was surprised to see him drop in distance LTO and off that handicap has to be a winner in waiting when upped back in trip.
Mawasem
Ran down the field in a very competitive Wood Ditton before winning NTO. He beat Nine Realms who was 2nd in a competitive maiden beforehand which is working out well so I remain hopeful that he has more to come.
Michelanglo
He made his debut in a Listed race and was beat by less than a length to his more experienced rivals. He runs again tomorrow in a listed race and any improvement should see him winning. Gosden has stated his intent with this horse by running him so quickly in listed company and I believe he could be a very good prospect this year, we’ll soon find out tomorrow.
Minimise Risk
He was unlucky on debut before winning NTO before being outpaced in a group 3. He is bred to be a true stayer and will continue to improve and looks like he could be useful over the longer distances.
Omar Khayaan
Made his debut in the competitive Wood Ditton, but was beat a long way. Could still progress to be a handicap prospect, but will have to show improvement NTO.
Require
Still a maiden after 2 runs, but showed promise on debut and I’m going to make an educated guess based on pedigree that the ground was too firm LTO. They’ll probably give him another run before taking him handicaps where he will be hard to ignore.
Scottish Vespers
2 places in 2 maidens, a 3rd when running green and a 2nd when the he and the winner moved clear of the rest. He should be good enough to find a race somewhere, but he looks like he may fall short of group/listed ability and with 2 decents runs in his maidens he may have put himself too easily in the grasp of the handicapper. We will find out more when we see either him again or Clowance Estate run again.
Selfara
Ran in 2 maidens so far and he is heading in the right direction. IMO from what I’ve seen I would like to see him step up in trip so am interested to note he has been entered into a maiden this week where he will be dropped in trip which makes me think he could be getting set-up to be a good handicap prospect.
Sporting Gold
2 poor maidens over 10 furlongs so far to his name, but on pedigree he is bred to stay much further and will improve when he goes handicapping over the longer distances later in the year.
Unex Annigoni
Raced once when finishing 3rd and has every right to improve for his debut run, but don’t currently have much of an opinion of where he can go and what he can achieve. Will know more after his next run.
Utterance
Ran only once and he is another who is not bred to run well fresh. He shaped as if he maybe suited by further and I believe he will improve for the run.
Vow
Rhymes with wow, which is exactly what the last 3 foals of this family is doing. Harris Tweed, Beaten up and now Vow. Won impressively on debut and then easily won a listed race earning quotes of single figures for the Oaks and at the moment I can’t see a reason why she cannot win the Oaks. She certainly has the best chance on this thread to be picking up a group 1 victory.
Teofilo x Kite Mark
Unraced and unnamed, but will be trained by M Botti having been brought for 80k at the Craven Sale.
Current LSP for the 3 year olds on the thread is +10.6
Only 1 runner tomorrow and he will be racing in the listed race in the 3.45 Goodwood.
Michelangelo
Galileo – Intrigued
John Gosden
A Half million yearling who has a pedigree that screams stamina, he is the brother of No Heretic that won over 12 furlongs. His Dam was a half sister to the French 2000 guineas winner Aussie Rules and also the Dam of Midas Touch. He holds a Derby entry and I’m hoping he lives up to his hefty Price Tag.
He made his debut in a very tough listed race finishing just a length behind Frankels Brother and the Wood Ditton winner. He has every right to improve for the run and if he does has a great chance tomorrow.
Michelangelo won his listed contest nicely at 4/6 yesterday and I still think he has the potential to be a group winner this year. Expense Claim ran a good race in 2nd which bodes well for Hajras and proves that Hajras has more to give and we should see him winning again of his current Handicap mark.
Chicago
Montjeu – Lady Karr
A P O'Brien
Closely related to group 3 winner Mikhail Glinka who stayed 2 mile, being Sired by Montjeu we can full expect this colt to be full of Stamina. He is out of a 12 furlong winning half Sister to Derby winner Sir Percy and trained by the Irish Master A P O’Brien.
5.35 Goodwood
EBTISAMA (19/3 b f Kingmambo - Misterah)
Trainer: Marcus Tregoning Owner: Hamdan Al Maktoum
Half sister to smart 5/6f 2010 2yo Darajaat and the very useful 6f-1m winner Shabiba, out of a smart 6-7f winner (including the Group 3 Nell Gwyn) who was a half sister to 5-12f winner Mustajed, family of the very smart middle distance performer River Memories. This filly is from a smart family very well known by connections; surprising she didn't see action at all last year (presumably met with a setback of some sort); interesting to see whether she debuts in the Bridget Fillies' Maiden at Newbury's Greenham meeting in April, a race for newcomers run over 7f.
7.50 Newbury
SELFARA (28/3 b f Oasis Dream - Rustic)
Trainer: Roger Charlton Owner: Khalid Abdulla
Half sister to 7f 2yo debut winner Provincial and 1m 3yo Flat/2m 2f hurdle winner Rangoon, out of a smart 6f 2yo winner who was a half sister to very smart 2yo/Irish Derby winner Grey Swallow. This filly doesn't boast any high-class relations, but it is fair to say that most of her siblings were by stouter/disappointing; reportedly held in some regard at Beckhampton and as such, it wouldn't be a surprise to see her register victory sooner rather than later; another for whom the fillies' newcomers race over 7f at Newbury's Greenham meeting is a realistic starting point.
Chicago has to have a very good chance as it would be disappointing to see him being beaten off a rating off just 83. Ebtisama makes his debut so we’ll learn more about him, on pedigree he has to have a chance, but he has been give Maktoum 2nd choice colours. Selfara has shown hints of ability, but I would have preferred to see him step up in trip rather than drop in trip.
Saturday Review, Chicago had every chance before looking like something went wrong and we just hope he is OK. Ebtisama ran extremely green and all we can say is that he'll improve for that and I wasn't surprised to see that Selfara not being able to keep up with the pace, will be interesting now when hopefully he steps up in trip on his handicap debut.
Todays sees 2 runners.
2.30 Leicester
Haverstock (15/3 b c New Approach - Endorsement)
Trainer: Mark Johnston Owner: Sheikh Hamdan Bin Mohammed Al Maktoum
(110,000gns) Three parts brother to dual 12f 3yo Flat/2m 6f-3m hurdle winner Galient (by Galileo), closely related to very smart middle distance performer Mores Wells (by Sadler's Wells) and a half brother to 7f 2yo winner Road Rage, out of a Queen's Vase winner who was a half sister to 1m 2yo debut winner Dakar Rally, excellent family of Indian Haven, Hala Bek, Imperial Stride, Daggers Drawn, Kite Wood etc. This smartly bred colt appeals as the type to make an impact in 1m maidens towards the backend of the season, very much bred to want middle distances but related to a handful that were able to make some sort of impact at two; stable has its fair share of debut winners in the autumn, and no surprise if this colt were to be another.
2.15 Kempton
Sharaarah (26/2 b f Oasis Dream - Nidhaal)
Trainer: Ed Dunlop Owner: Hamdan Al Maktoum
Full sister to fair 5-6f 2yo AW winner Sadafiya and a half sister to smart 5f 2yo winner Burwaaz (placed at Group 2/3 level), out of a smart 6f 2yo winner (including at Listed level) for these connections who was a half sister to multiple middle distance winner/2m 1f-2m 2f hurdle scorer Maslak out of a 6f 2yo winner from the family of top-class middle distance performers Assert, Bikala and Eurobird. This filly is bred to be a speedy juvenile, both of her siblings precocious sorts for connections, including last season's smart sprinting juvenile Burwaaz; unlikely to be any different herself, and can be expected to start out in a 5/6f within the first few months of the season.
Sharaarah ran well and picked up his maiden at 13/8. Haverstock ran a bit green, but I felt ran a big race and shows some potential even more so when believe his pedigree is not really ideal for a 6 furlongs, will need further and having seen his debut and confident he will be winning this season.
Just the 1 runner today
SPORTING GOLD (22/3 b c Shirocco - Pink Stone)
Trainer: Roger Varian Owner: Alan Spence
Sales price doubled to 130,000gns as a yearling; half brother to the yard's high-class but ill-fated 7f 2yo valuable sales race winner Tiger Eye, useful 12f-2m winner Battleoftrafalgar and 1m 2yo winner Alright My Son. Had apparently shown some promise early but was clearly in need of more time not to see the track at all at two, hardly surprisingly considering his sire; interesting proposition for the season ahead over middle distances, particularly if debuting in one of the better maidens early on.
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WHATEVER WORKS (May 9th.) Dermot Weld
Bay colt by Oasis Dream out of Suitably Discreet (Mr. Prospector)
A half-brother to Speaking of Which impressive winner of the Group 3 Gallinule on Sunday. Also half-brother to Capital Exposure, second to Eagle Mountain in the Beresford 2006.
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