FRANKEL

[kingpin77]

WHAT A SUPERSTAR. .I BELIEVE EVEN WHEN HE STEPS UP TO 10 FURLONGS HE WILL STILL BE UNBEATABLE,BUT I,M SURE OTHER TRAINERS WILL FIRE THERE BIG GUNS AT HIM...NATHANIEL AND ST NICHOLAS ABBEY POSSIBLES ,BUT CAMELOT IS THE ONE I,D LIKE TO SEE.

[budgie27]

Frankel has never raced over 1m2f but he should be ok with that. A more interesting aspect is that he has never gone left handed in any of his 12 wins and also depending on field size then the draw might be interesting. If he were to get a high draw say 12 of 12, he might get lit up? Looking forward to August 22nd and this probably the most interesting race he has run since his debut in terms of likelihood of getting beaten. Is 1-4 for the Juddmonte interesting without knowing who is turning up - it might be if faces just a handful of runners again, presume Farrh will run again but Frankel beat him as easily as expected and though Farrh can be expected to be better back at 10f seems unlikely he can bridge the gap. So you are looking at Nathaniel (better going right handed?), CdA (worthy opponent) and SNA (probably better going left handed on good or better ground). Even if you take Frankel's rating of 140 as an over exaggeration, the best any of these horses is likely to achieve (excepting Nathaniel if winning the Arc by more than 2Ls) is 130 so would Frankel have to underperform by 6lbs minimum to win? Given he looked a likely Derby winner on his debut it seems the distance is unlikely to prove a problem (though it is not proven his brother Noble Mission is not having any problems staying 12fs as a 3yo) and though he will find this race tougher than most he has run in the only thing you can see him getting beaten on is the left hand factor (the main unknown) or a massive career best from one of the others i.e. 6lbs+ on what they have achieved so far.

[Roger Green]

I am sure that one of the main reasons that Frankel is an exceptional racehorse is that he is so relaxed both at home and at the racecourse
Clearly well broken in and carefully nurtured at Warren Place

[man o bong]

[turfline]

Amazing horse Frankel, but York race course is a law unto itself, many favourites have come un-stuck at York.

I can remember as if it were yesterday when Brigadier Gerard got beaten by Roberto in the same race that he would sluice the race, but got beaten for the only time.
Colour television was in it's infancy at the time, and i can remember getting our first ever colour viewing set, and cricket was the reason for that, watching the test match at the time in colour was some delight.

Just think, there were no betting exchanges, no mobile phones, and no internet in those days, plus it was not until 1986 that live SIS pictures came into the bookmakers, so you may think how did we manage...well a lot better than today, and a much better way of life...plus there was no sunday racing, and no sunday shopping super-markets...wonderful days..................
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[EyeNoAgain]

Happy days indeed, turfline

The battle between the Brigadier and Mill Reef. Cricket on TV ALL day - bliss.

Hair on my head and full bodily functions!

But no internet gambling! At least one thing has improved.

Back to the indomitable Frankel.

Am I going a bit soft or did it actually prance after the race. It seemed to be saying, 'How about that then!' Quite a character.

Racing round a bend could be a problem given the pace that Frankel produces but surely Tom Queally will use restraint around the turn - but will Frankel allow that? Hopefully yes, but it could just be a factor if the field is as high classed as hoped.

Sad day for everyone (except layers) if this incredible horse ever gets beaten. What about the prospect of his progeny!

[spinningcoin]

Hasn't Frankel won around a bend at Ascot?

[horage]

Frankle its only a horse. I heard it can't jump a fence at all and won't stay
3 miles round cheltenham on the heavy going...
Nostalgia ain't what it use to be is it

[Online Trader]

[UnderdogsLover]

Glad Frankel stepping up to 10f, hope he faces Camelot
soon, that should be great match.

Frankel mile races, there no competition for him.
Hope also Frankel go up to 12 f. when he can go for the Arc.
and hope owners keep Frankel in training for another year.
Frankel needs to have tough competition, so stepping up
to 10f is the right direction .

[EyeNoAgain]

horage

Superb post.



So, maybe we are getting carried away. Frankel is only equine!



spinningcoin

Yes, but I believe that was the only occasion. I suppose that I am just looking for a reason not to put the house on the horse!

[turfline]

AH well OT, we had the edge in those days, not many knew about handicapping or ratings of a race, as they say ignorance is bliss, and it was for us.
We would travel to race-courses to punt, and you could get 99% of your bets on, as now-a-days at the touch of a button the bookmaker can see were the money is going, but not yester-year.

We have a world population that has doubled since 1963, and GB has seen an increase of its population to 3.5 million while the Labour goverment where in power, you could travel around the country in a car, and no long traffic jams like today, and you could travel on the under-ground not being squashed like a sardine when going to sporting events, but today it is a real bind.

Plus you could pay at the gate when you went to a race-course or football match, not now-a-days....every thing is computerised.
That is why many punters who set out to make profits fail, because they cannot do the maths OT.

AS for Trading that has been around since the 1800's, but now it has taken a new lease of life through the internet with PC's and hand held devices, and that is were the profits are, trading OT on the internet with the exchanges gives you more oppourtunites.

But give me the 60's and 70' any day, as there was peace of mind, and easier pickings.

Even the university degree's have been watered down to accomodate numbers, but that's another story.

We did not need calculators to work out maths, as we were taught pen to paper, and do it in your heads maths.

Will add to this a little later OT/time for a snooze.
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