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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:49 am Post subject: PGA Tour - The Greenbrier Classic 5th - 8th July 2012
The PGA tour moves to White Sulphur Springs, West Virginia this week for the Greenbrier Classic which was a new event on the schedule in 2010 and was won by Stuart Appleby with a score of -21 after he shot a final round of 59 to beat Jeff Overton who looked like winning at one stage. The Old White TPC course is a par 70 with two par 5's and played easily in 2010 and was ranked 42 (out of 52) in difficulty on the PGA TOUR .
However the course was modified afterwards with all the 18 greens being reconstructed and reseeded with bentgrass. The course was lengthened by about 200 yards and now plays at just over 7270 yards. The fairways were narrowed but it is noticeable that driving accuracy was not too important last year when Scott Stallings won with - 10 after a play off but he was one of only three players to shot double figures under par for the tournament so the course did play harder in 2011 than it did the previous year before the alterations were made.
The recent storms in this region of the USA did damage the course but the tournament will go ahead as planned. Weather forecast is for some thunderstorms on thursday and friday with it being drier over the weekend. Winds will be light.
Tiger Woods is favourite and he could be difficult to beat. Phil Mickelson, Webb Simpson, Dustin Johnson and Steve Stricker are also competing.
I think Tiger could win but odds will not appeal to me. Maybe Seung-Yul Noh is worth an interest ? Selections etc to follow
Here we have ourselves a very interesting golfer. Byrd has won 5 PGA tour events in his time and they seem to come out of the blue. For example, first tournament of 2011 he plays out of his skin, hitting -24 to win the Hyundai Tournament of Champions. This year whilst making 11/14 cuts, I don't think he has quite hit top gear and know he is capable of more. If you take out his last performance (US Open, +14), his last four results read 9th, 12th, 10th, 6th - suggesting good e/w value. A really good player on the green, and scrambling is one of his strong points too. Hopefully his time off since the major would have done him some good and he can be ready to take another tour event here. Five top ten finishes this year, hope he can go one further.
Bill HAAS (50/1)
Another player of a somewhat unknown quantity. Haas can be frustrating for backers, you don't know which version of him you're going to get. however he has already chalked up a memorable win on tour this year, earlier on in the Northern Trust Open - defeating Lefty and Keegan Bradley in a 3way playoff, sinking a 43foot birdie putt. Solid all round player, without excelling majorly in any parts of his game, am happy with his long game though and can play a major part here. If he can find the form he shown last year to win the TOUR Championship, he can be a key contender here. At 50s, he's worth a dabble. Game on. _________________ brewsty39
I agree with rabbit that, although Tiger stands a decent chance of winning, 4-1 is no price. I'll wait and see how he starts off and then maybe Lay. Hopefully Jim Furyk should give me a run for my money.
Jim Furyk @25-1
Jim should have had time to get over his disappointment in the US Open and can put in a good performance here. Yet to win this season, but he has been close a few times. He didn't play great at Congressional, although he did hit 69 in his final round. He played the Greenbrier in 2010 and finished T9 on -14. While the course has been altered, a player of furyk's class should be able to cope.
Good luck everyone with your picks. Almost time for The Open!
One player that has to come into consideration is Jeff Overton, odds 50/1.This player pops up because of what he done over the last 54 holes at the AT&T National. Jeff shot 6 under which was only better by Adam Scott and the winner Woods. The 79 in the first round can be forgiven, His final 54 hole 6 under rocketed him to a Tied 22nd place, add that to his 2nd in 2010, 50/1 represents value in my opinion.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:58 am Post subject:
Going with these four
Webb Simpson ( 20/1 ) looks worth an interest in this event now that he has hit form. He experienced a successful season in 2011 with two victories on the PGA tour ( Wyndham Championship and Deutsche Bank Championship ) and he was also runner up on three occasions so is capable of playing some very good golf. He started the year with a 3rd in the Hyundai Tournament of Champions and later on he finished 4th at the Wells Fargo Championship. He won the U S Open three weeks ago which was his first success of 2012 and also his first victory in a Major. He was only jt 29th the week after at the Travellers but was probably feeling tired after his efforts in the U S Open. He did not play last week and may now be ready to produce another good performance on this week's course where he came jt 9th in 2011.
South Korean Seung-Yul Noh ( 50/1 ) is in his rookie season on the PGA tour and has been gradually improving this season as he gains experience. He is only 21 years old but has already won on the European tour and his latest three PGA events have produced finishes of jt 7th in the.FedEx St. Jude Classic, jt 18th in the Travelers Championship and a jt 4th last week on a difficult course at the AT & T National which was his best effort of 2012 so far. That performance will have boosted his confidence and I think that this week's course will suit him. His main weakness is his inaccuracy off the tee but he was much better than usual last week ( ranked jt 29th in driving accuracy stats ) and he could get at least a top 5 finish if maintaining that improvement.
Cameron Tringale ( 66/1 ) has yet to win on the PGA tour but produced some good results in 2011 on his second full year on the PGA tour as he obtained 5 top ten finishes with his best results being a jt 4th at the Greenbrier Classic and a jt 4th at the Asia Pacific Classic in Malaysia. He was jt 4th at the Farmers Insurance Open earlier this season and has produced some good efforts since with a jt 8th at the Shell Houston Open, a jt 8th at the Valero Texas Open and a 7th at the Zurich Classic of New Orleans. He has been a bit disappointing lately but this week's course could suit him more than the ones he has played on recently as he came jt 4th on it last year.
John Huh ( 80/1 ) earned his rookie card for the 2012 PGA tour by finishing jt 24th at the qualifying tournament last year and he had never previously played on this tour. He did win in S/Korea in 2010 and started the season in good form with making the cut in all four events played and came jt 6th at the Farmers and jt 12th at the Waste Management Phoenix Open. He then went on to win the Mayakoba Golf Classic in February which was a weak event by PGA standards but it boosted his confidence. Since then he nearly won another event when jt 2nd at the Valero Texas Open. His best effort since was a jt 5th at the Crowne Plaza Invitational at Colonial and last week he came jt 17th at the AT&T National which was a decent effort on his first appearance there. His accuracy off the tee has been good this year and I think he is worth an e/way interest.
Keegan Bradley. I expect him to go really close this week on the Old white course. The course set up should suit his game. He's won twice on tour, Pga championship 2011 and the Hp Byron Nelson 2011, Ranks 10th in par 4 birdie or better stats and overall birdie conversion ranks 10th. Keegan has had two chances of a win this season losing in a three man play off to Bill Haas at the Northern trust and at the WGC Cadillac, when he was in pole position on the 15th tee before dropping 4 shots in the closing holes. Comes here fresh after a 29th at the TPC river highland course, where he was number 1 ranking in GIR. 33/1 40/1 in places.
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Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject:
Cameron Tringale 55/1 E/W
Woods is in fine form but back to the old of him being too short again and no way will i back him this week I really am liking Cameron Tringale and looks a very good player and getting better all the time Tringale has yet to win on tour yet but based on the way he has played a win is not far off at all Played 18 times this season on tour and has seven too 25 placings and done well here last season and in better form now Has four top 10 placings so looks value for a place and game is so suited here with his long game and putts very well and needed here Came fourth here last year his best finish of the season so can he do even better again
Jonathan Byrd 45/1 E/W
How tough is this event and never have much success on this tour and not sure when i last backed a winner but feel i will do well this week Jonathan Byrd must always be feared given the amount of times he has won on tour and so consistent Byrd is always a threat and has five top 10 placings in just 14 events so looks great Each Way value no doubt Byrd was not his best in the US Open but has took time out to prepare for this so should be in good nick Before the Open was in awesome form in the previous four events placing 9th,12th,10th and 6th so very consistent Missed the cut here last year but in much better form then last season
Jimmy Walker 60/1 E/W
Jimmy Walker can play on his day and started the season so well and had three top ten placings in just six events but gone off the boil since and not been in the same vein of form Makes most cuts so should often get a run for your money when you back him and last week was doing so well after two rounds and was well in contention before two final poor rounds cost him Walker loves this course and in the last two years of this event as finished fourth both times so looks cracking value for a place Putts well which is needed but driving is not tue best but does it ok here and if he can improve his driving this week then will go real close"
Wagners had a great year to date won the Sony open second at the Humanna various other top 25 places .. 7th for Eagles and 9th for birdies made . Form is currently not as good as early part of the year but 150/1 is great odds .. Wagner also came 11th in this event last year Good Luck all
WOODS and WESTWOOD double, pays 34-1. both in good form, on courses that could suit worth a go.
HUH 66-1.
good, determind youngster who has shown he can play and comeback from the odd bad round. 10th in accuracy and 8th in total putting, 13th in all round, good ball striker could go well.
CURTIS 66-1.
going to give him another go this week, shorter course should suit. strong finish on a tough course and one that prob wasnt for him, sits 2nd in accuracy, 6th GIR, 3rd par 4 perf and 2nd in total putting. no one gets it closer to the whole and he rarely 3 putts.
FURYK 25-1
still not forgiven him for the US Open when it seemed to be there for the taking, but hopefully he can at least re-pay me in some way this week. 5th in accuracy, 8th in scrambling, strong on the shorter holes, 20th in total putting, always gets it close to the hole, finished well on a course that was too long for him last week. has chances.
good luck to all.
J
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:35 pm Post subject:
am going with a ew doulbe this week with ian poulter and seung yul noh
poulter can gain a place if he can up his green form and noh is a quality young up coming player and as rabbit say's should boost his confidence from last weeks finish at the at & t orthers on my radar for this greenbriers are
webb simpson should give a good account for himself here after a bit of a break not much of a price like at 16/1
john rollins could be of interest if making the cut here has had 5 top tens thus far and t4th at the travelers back in june and if continuing on from that could figure. 60/1
good luck all _________________ dont gamble if you cant afford to lose it
The PGA Tour heads to West Virginia for the 3rd edition of the Greenbrier Classic at the Old White TPC. Winner last year was Scott Stallings whilst Stuart Appleby shot a 59 in the final round to steal the win in 2010. The course was made tougher after Appleby’s win though and Stallings won at 10 under compared to Appleby shooting 11 under in 1 round.
Three of my thoughts for this have played here previously, whilst two make their debuts here. First two thoughts then are the only two players to have top 10’s finishes in both years here Jimmy Walker & Brendan de Jonge. Both tied for 4th last year, a shot away from the playoff, whilst De Jonge pipped Walker by a couple of shots for 3rd, with Walker 4th in 2010. Both have 7 from 8 rounds under par, a 72 for both last year ruining that record and the chance to win the event.
Walker is in mixed form though with 32nd last week following a MC at the St Jude & 62nd at the Memorial. Has not had a top 10 since Feb at the Northern Trust. But did come here last year of two missed cuts & a 68th so maybe able to bounce back. De Jonge is in better form with 11th last week after a poor final round and 8th at the Travelers, which was on the back of an improving 41st, 38th, 34th run.
The other of my thoughts to have been here before is a regular at the moment Jim Furyk who shows that he must be ready to bounce back to the winner circle. He was 9th here in 10, shooting no worse than a 68. Started slowly last week but bounced back in the last round to finish 34th, his worst result since the Honda Classic back in March.
My other two thoughts are both debutants here, Tiger Woods & Steve Stricker. Woods is back I guess is the comment, his 3rd win of the season takes him to 2nd on his own in the list of PGA Tour wins. Add in he’s won Arnie’s event, Jack’s event, and his own event this season, going to the course where Sam Snead was head pro could be an omen, it’s Snead’s record Woods is now chasing. Despite all the pushed & pulled shots we seem to see from him he’s 5th in total driving, 10th in GIR, and then is 14th in strokes gained putting, a good all round game then.
Stricker also makes his debut here and looks like he is coming back into some form following a missed cut at the Players, he was 50th at the Memorial & 15th at the US Open. Always hits hit close (2nd in proximity) and with putting a key area here that will make it easier for him.
I think I will go with the big Zimbabwean Brendan de Jonge. An excellent record here and is also in good form with that 11th last week when he didn’t cope with the pressure of the 54 hold lead, so hopefully he can learn from that, and was 8th the week before that. Also thanks to the renewed Tiger factor his odds have been pushed out nicely to a 40-1, which even a place would be better than a Tiger win at 7-2.
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